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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Morgan on October 25, 2018, 02:11:17 pm

Title: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: Morgan on October 25, 2018, 02:11:17 pm
Ok, I’m sure this has probably been done before, so if anyone knows please chime in with whether it worked or not. I was thinking that you could mix a 60/40 or so mix of water/titebond3 in a jar and rehydrate the backing strips in that. That would surely carry the glue deep into the rawhide and give it more water resistance. Reckon that would work? If not, why?
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: Pat B on October 25, 2018, 02:34:48 pm
You could put a thin coat TBIII over the rawhide. You don't need to thin it although thinning won't hurt, although it will add more moisture to the rawhide.
 Any regular finish will seal the rawhide well enough.
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: hoosierf on October 25, 2018, 02:53:29 pm
I top my backs including wood after staining, sinew, rawhide and flax roving with a pva glue but for that job i use Weldbond because it dries absolutely clear.
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: Morgan on October 25, 2018, 02:58:04 pm
Thanks Pat.
I figured that if I thined it out I could put dried strips right in the thinned mixture and it would draw the glue into the hide as it re-hydrated. Probably just over thinking things.  I’ve got a little sapling stave I’m wanting to do for my boy.  The rings are paper thin. Though I think it will be fine for a youth bow, my boy can be rough on bows and I’d like the extra insurance of the rawhide. He’ll also drop one in wet grass without batting an eye lol.
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: Morgan on October 25, 2018, 03:00:00 pm
I top my backs including wood after staining, sinew, rawhide and flax roving with a pva glue but for that job i use Weldbond because it dries absolutely clear.

Hoosier, are you talking about the weldwood plastic resin you mix with water? Does that cure through evaporation or chemical reaction like epoxy?
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: DC on October 25, 2018, 07:17:45 pm
I tried a similar thing with diluted acrylic floor finish. It did dry harder than regular rawhide and it did resist re-wetting somewhat but it still softened when left to soak. That said anyone that leaves their bow soaking overnight deserves what they get ;D ;D
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: hoosierf on October 26, 2018, 06:49:50 am
I top my backs including wood after staining, sinew, rawhide and flax roving with a pva glue but for that job i use Weldbond because it dries absolutely clear.

Hoosier, are you talking about the weldwood plastic resin you mix with water? Does that cure through evaporation or chemical reaction like epoxy?

No it’s weldbond not weld wood. The big box home improvement guys sell it. It’s in a silver bottle usually right next to Titebond and the other wood glues.  Craft stores have it too. The crafters like the fact that it dries clear.
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: Jim Davis on October 26, 2018, 08:28:21 am
... my boy can be rough on bows and I’d like the extra insurance of the rawhide. He’ll also drop one in wet grass without batting an eye lol.

I'm 70, and I can tell you your son will profit by the experience  if you allow consequences to carelessness. You will both suffer if you don't.
Title: Re: Idea to waterproof rawhide backings.
Post by: Pat B on October 26, 2018, 02:31:31 pm
I use Tru-Oil over rawhide backings. Sometimes it makes the rawhide translucent which gives it a nice look IMO and makes the rawhide more water resistant.