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Main Discussion Area => Muzzleloaders => Topic started by: Pat B on November 20, 2018, 12:01:56 pm

Title: Help solve mystery
Post by: Pat B on November 20, 2018, 12:01:56 pm: A friend was asked to try to identify this gun. It is a small(childs?) cap lock muzzle loader with Damascus barrel(I think). Looks like maybe .40 cal, has a bead front sight and no rear sight. The stock has a face carved on the pistol grip. On the barrel is stamped, Troxado De Aco or Troxado Draco on the top and Belgium forward of that. Here are the pics I have. Can get more if necessary. Any help will be appreciated.
(https://i.imgur.com/h2w4Nzg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NRjIiba.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/idQT90M.jpg)
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: half eye on November 20, 2018, 04:32:43 pm: Pat, cant be 100% for sure but ya could have a Spanish (Eibar). I found some examples that are ornately carved like yours. I'm attaching a direct link to a PDF that is a complete listing w/ pictures of the Eibar region museum....if inappropriate ya know what to do. here are a couple of pics from the museum publication....I cant read Spanish so dont know how much it will help.

https://www.scribd.com/document/367919731/0007-pdf

and some pics from the doc. I have to see if I can get the pics to load but thety are on pages 65-67 of the doc in case I cant figure it out
rich
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: half eye on November 20, 2018, 04:41:41 pm: try the pics again
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: Pat B on November 20, 2018, 08:34:43 pm: Thanks, Rich. This gun is a child's gun and not as finely crafted as the pics you posted. I'll pass the link on to my friend so he can investigate it.
This gun also has a ramrod, about 1/4" in diameter with a patch "grip" on one end and the ram for a conical projectile on the other.
I'll try to get a few more pics.
Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: Eric Krewson on November 21, 2018, 07:06:27 am: Post the pictures on the American Longrifles site in the antiques section, the guys will tell you all about the gun.
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: Pat B on November 21, 2018, 07:24:56 am: Thanks Eric. I'll let my friend know. I knew I'd get some answers here.
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: mullet on November 21, 2018, 09:07:01 am: I've seen some in .41 caliber smooth bore that were similar and were traded to Natives in Africa. They were not very well made.
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: Pat B on November 21, 2018, 10:46:22 am: Eddie, this one doesn't seem well made except for the carving.
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: Parnell on November 22, 2018, 07:13:59 pm: Troxado de Aco. Portuguese?
Title: Re: Help solve mystery
Post by: Pat B on November 22, 2018, 09:59:49 pm: Steve, trying to figure the nationality of the gun is a mystery. Trying to read the inscription on the barrel is another.
Troxado Draco(if googled) is a European(?) yucca type plant.
I was at Holland's house tonight for TG dinner and forgot to ask if he found any other info about the gun. Other conversations dominated. ::)