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Title: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on December 26, 2018, 02:38:10 pm
hot out of the forge.
forged from a Nicholson file.
clay oated and quenched in warm canola oil.
hot vinagar etched to show hamon
6.0 overall 2 3/4 blade.
legal everyday carry here in Michigan and thats my plan as soon as i get it in leather.
thanks for looking
Kevin

(http://i.imgur.com/zGalX3i.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/zGalX3i)

(http://i.imgur.com/SPFbtaJ.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/SPFbtaJ)

(http://i.imgur.com/2zoFmz6.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/2zoFmz6)



Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: osage outlaw on December 26, 2018, 02:45:14 pm
That is cool!   I like the hamon.  What kind of clay do you use?
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on December 26, 2018, 03:14:42 pm
That is cool!   I like the hamon.  What kind of clay do you use?


mecos from menards.

most any refractory cement will work.
imperial has been my favorite.
(http://i.imgur.com/4kHGBwI.jpg?1) (https://imgur.com/4kHGBwI)

Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 26, 2018, 03:41:18 pm
Nice work!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pat B on December 26, 2018, 10:12:52 pm
Nice replacement knife, Kevin.  ;)
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: DC on December 27, 2018, 09:22:07 am
Can you clear something up for me? The hamon shows the difference in hardness, right? Will it tend to lose it's edge quicker where the hamon reaches the edge in those few spots?
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on December 27, 2018, 10:13:10 am
Can you clear something up for me? The hamon shows the difference in hardness, right? Will it tend to lose it's edge quicker where the hamon reaches the edge in those few spots?


correct.
i thought the same thing when i started but havent noticed a significant difference in hardness  till you get a ways above the line.
its still reasonably hard till you get about 1/3 the way up the blade.

you can feel  it when its sanded,
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 27, 2018, 10:21:36 am
Do you put the clay on the edge or the back to fire?  I don't know much about forging yet.  Thanks,
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on December 27, 2018, 10:27:19 am
Do you put the clay on the edge or the back to fire?  I don't know much about forging yet.  Thanks,
Hawkdancer

spine.
the clay stopped 1/8 to 3/16 above where the actual line is.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Stoner on January 15, 2019, 02:55:59 am
Great craftsmanship as always. One of these days I gotta try my hand at this. John
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: dylanholderman on January 16, 2019, 07:05:27 am
Very nice, but is the edge still hard where the Hamon dips down to it?
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 16, 2019, 07:30:44 am
Very nice, but is the edge still hard where the Hamon dips down to it.


The edge seems to be holding up well.
If I ever get to the point I'm not happy with it I will reheat treat and temper.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: dylanholderman on January 16, 2019, 07:35:30 am
Cool  :OK
I haven’t done anything with hamons so I wasn’t sure if the hardened steel stops right at the line or if it was a bit past it.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: burchett.donald on January 19, 2019, 09:19:04 am
 Nice blade Kevin...Like the overall shape of the handle and blade
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: bjrogg on January 20, 2019, 08:55:15 am
Really like that blade Kevin. That'll be a very handy knife to use and carry. I'd like to see what you come up with for leather to carry it.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 20, 2019, 03:29:52 pm
Really like that blade Kevin. That'll be a very handy knife to use and carry. I'd like to see what you come up with for leather to carry it.
Bjrogg


here ya go,
this has been a working knife since I made the sheath .
I added the orange para cord so I don't loose the knife as easily.
thanks
Kevin
(http://i.imgur.com/qSt0ISp.jpg) (https://imgur.com/qSt0ISp)
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: PNewton on January 20, 2019, 05:04:12 pm
Nice knife and sheath Kevin I love the one I got from you.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 21, 2019, 01:44:14 pm
Beautiful work Kevin, got to love that. So the clay goes on the sharp edge or on back down ?  I have seen it done on TV but didn't pay much attention.
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 21, 2019, 03:30:13 pm
Beautiful work Kevin, got to love that. So the clay goes on the sharp edge or on back down ?  I have seen it done on TV but didn't pay much attention.
 Pappy

thanks pappy.

from the back down about 2/3 the blade height.

clay thickness and temperature and type of quenchant can yield some interesting patterns.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 22, 2019, 04:56:51 am
Thanks, I think I got it, put the clay on before you heat it up, correct, I have just been getting them non magnetic and the quench in oil, it's pretty hard so then in the oven at 450 for a few hours and let cool, seems to do a pretty good job but I am sure not very precise.  ;) Thanks for your help, I am just starting and have a lot to learn, Right now just doing it in the fire with a blower I have set up. Need a forge and plan on that soon.
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 22, 2019, 05:01:08 pm
pappy
you are correct.
clay before you heat.
quench in warm canola oil.
450 is a little hot
.
id stick to 375-400 for 2 hours/
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 23, 2019, 05:53:40 am
Thanks Kevin, much appreciated.
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 24, 2019, 06:11:56 am
1 More question Kevin, how thick do you put the clay on it ?
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 24, 2019, 08:20:02 am
About 3/32 of an inch.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 24, 2019, 03:07:30 pm
Thanks Kevin, went looking for the stuff today but couldn't find any in store, Lowes has it on line so I will have to order it.  :(
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 24, 2019, 04:57:31 pm
pappy
most any place that sells wood stove supplies will have stove cement.
check you local hardware.
up here even tractor supply and family farm and home carry it.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 29, 2019, 02:58:25 pm
Thanks again Kevin, Beau found it on line and I am supposed to have it Thursday, may try it out this weekend. ;)
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on January 31, 2019, 01:45:18 pm
1 more question Kevin, The stuff came in, I was reading about it and even though it doesn't say anything about what I am going to do with it, it does say let set for 24 hours before adding heat, does this apply to what I am going to do with it or is that just brick and such, sorry to be a bother but know you know and I sure don't. ;) :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: KHalverson on January 31, 2019, 03:39:24 pm
pappy
its no bother.
you don't have to let it dry for 24 hours .
I usually just speed dry by holding the knife with tongs and running it in and out of the heat till dry.
most of the time you are only putting it on from 1/16 to 1/8 inch thick.
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on February 01, 2019, 05:18:29 am
Thanks much for all your help.
 Pappy
Title: Re: another blacksmith knife
Post by: Pappy on February 03, 2019, 03:57:16 pm
Thanks again Kevin, it worked out way better that I thought.  :)
 Pappy