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Title: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 14, 2019, 03:51:33 pm
I was asked for some pictures of my new arrow lathe. It's made from an old sewing machine. I kept the foot pedal. Using the tension knob works well. I turned a new idler pulley to slow it down a little more. It has a separate power supply for the feather burner. It could still use more stuff, like a paint brush rest for cresting. Let me know if you want more.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: rebsr52339 on March 14, 2019, 05:30:48 pm
Who says we are not a nation of very clever folks  8)
Nice job
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Post by: TSA on March 15, 2019, 08:33:14 am
that is awesome, so it is a thread wrapping lathe, cresting jig and arrow burner all in one ??
very cool :OK
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 15, 2019, 08:44:44 am
Yup. Wrapping two threads at once looks cool. I'm still learning how to do that. It's a tad fast for learning. The original reduction was 9:1. The new idler pulley I made dropped that to 13:1. 15 or 16:1 would be better I think. The lathe I had before used an old cordless drill for power. It worked but it was very noisy. This is nice and quiet, I can still hear my tunes. I got the inspiration to make this new one by watching a video for a device called an "Arrow Wrapper" It's on youtube, take a look.
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Post by: Pat B on March 15, 2019, 08:48:11 am
Does it have a fletch burner on it too, DC?
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Post by: DC on March 15, 2019, 08:56:55 am
Yup, The burner is on the pedestal on the left of the first picture and that cord that's flopping all over plugs in to a yard light power supply. The power supply got the wire too hot and kept popping its breaker. I found a second hand router speed controller and now I can adjust the wire heat perfectly. It's one more piece of stuff though. I was trying to make a "one machine conveniently does all" thing and now it has two power cords. Maybe MkIII will be better ;D ;D ;D It filled the time when the RH in the shop was just too low for bows.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: TSA on March 15, 2019, 11:08:14 am
excellent- great ingenuity!
i have seen the thread wrapper tool- and conversed with the maker of it, hes from eastern Europe.
the patterns created certainly look very novel- adds a whole new "twist" to traditional crestings  ;)
i did want to ask, where the hot wire contacted the wood- did it not burn the wood there- although i see no indication of that- how did you insulate it there?
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Pat B on March 15, 2019, 11:32:03 am
DC, an electric soldering iron makes a good feather burner. It has a resistor in it to keep from overheating. I'd bet you could find one cheap at a thrift store, disassemble it and reassemble to your liking.
There was an article years ago in PA Magazine about thread wrapped cresting.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 15, 2019, 12:29:08 pm
Ingenious device!  Patent that puppy real quick!  Great job repurposing old equipment, too!
Hawkdancer
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Post by: Woodely on March 15, 2019, 01:28:59 pm
Quite the project........and extremely useful.   8)  can we see a shaft on it.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 15, 2019, 03:02:34 pm
A few more pictures. I looked and looked for a chuck to grab the arrows and then realised that a tab to fit in the nock with an "O" ring to hold it worked fine. The burner wire is held between two nuts. It doesn't touch the wood. The last picture shows it better and shows off my clever wire tensioning device ;D
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Pat B on March 15, 2019, 03:56:42 pm
Well done, DC.  :OK
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Post by: DC on March 15, 2019, 06:53:54 pm
Thanks guys
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Post by: ohma2 on March 16, 2019, 08:49:07 am
That is one cool machine the things you come up with amaze me ,i would liked to have one of them years ago.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: TSA on March 16, 2019, 10:02:54 am
HA!!!
that is awesome :OK
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Scyth on March 16, 2019, 11:19:03 am
DC -

A treadle to replace the electrical service.

(I use to build spinnng wheels & hand weaving looms for a living . .  )

regards,

Scyth
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 16, 2019, 01:48:50 pm
That would work but you would have to treadle awfully hard to get feather burner red hot ;D
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Post by: TSA on March 18, 2019, 08:33:34 am
thats funny DC ;D
although i do like the idea of a treadle to do the majority of the spinning work- it would be a cool addition.
maybe a solar charger and a 12v battery ;)

i just love seeing folks who think out of the box!!
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 18, 2019, 09:44:34 am
I remember playing with my Mom's treadle sewing machine :) I think it would be tough to get an even slow speed. Except for the weight I think running the thing with a car battery would be great. Then you could charge it with solar. 12 volts is mains voltage on Haida Gwaii isn't it ;D ;D
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 18, 2019, 12:13:27 pm
The only thing missing is the automatic shaft straightener >:D (lol)!  I learned how to sew on a "White" treadle machine many, many years ago, before boys were supposed to do those things, after I started learning how to cook in the kitchen.  Never figured out spinning wheels, though! 
How about posting some plans and a load list?  Unless you are applying for a patent, of course!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 18, 2019, 01:23:32 pm
Plans, Plans, I ain't got no steenking plans ;D ;D ;D and I don't know what a load list is.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Pappy on March 19, 2019, 05:02:15 am
Very cool,Love seeing people using what they have and make something useful .I made made a Crester once and it was to fast 12 volt fan motor off a refer truck cooling unit I slowed it down with a rheostat, had no money so I used an old headlight switch and wired it in to the part that deems the dome light, not near as nice as yours , but works great. :) Everybody laughed at it , but I have loaned it out a lot. ;)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 19, 2019, 08:32:48 am
I have to ask....does it run on AC, DC?    >:D

Man, that is simply awesome. A wonder to behold.  Now will you put up a video of you  running it through its paces?

Scyth:  I love woodworking (duh, who here doesn't?). A spinning wheel, or several, is on my lifelist to make.  I saw one at the Black Hills Fiber Guild's exhibit during the fair several years ago that set my mind spinning...it folds up smaller than a suitcase. The owner said it is small enough she can take it on flights as carry on luggage!  My one concern is that I will have to try it out once the first one is built and I will enjoy spinning thread and yarns. And that is a rabbit hole that leads to far too many other rabbit holes!
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 19, 2019, 09:38:28 am
I have to ask....does it run on AC, DC?    >:D


Snicker, snicker ;D
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 19, 2019, 09:42:27 am
I used an old headlight switch and wired it in to the part that deems the dome light,
 Pappy

Good thinkin' that. I wouldn't have thought it could take the load.
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 19, 2019, 11:31:47 am
Well, shucks!  Everybody doesn't know beans from a load list!  My army days are catching up with me!  Can't be old age! >:D (lol).  Parts and pieces (load list), and how to put them together in what order?(plans) (lol) (lol)  On the other hand - a very ingenious device!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 19, 2019, 12:11:54 pm
Oh, a parts list. ;D Well, the pictures pretty much show all the parts and the pictures show how they go together. I don't think anything I wrote up would be any clearer. ;D
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Pappy on March 20, 2019, 04:24:42 am
Ya DC it holds up just fine, I do plug it in instead of using a battery but I wired in an adapter to change it from 120 to 12 volts. I can slow it to a crawl or run it wide open if I want. It's not nearly as cool as yours but works good for creasting. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: DC on March 20, 2019, 08:58:03 am
The fact that it works well is way more important than how it looks. I don't (yet) crest my arrows but I think I'll put a brush rest with a cresting "gauge"(can't think of a better word) on it. Then maybe a button tuft brain tanned wrist rest. Oh, and a drink holder ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Arrow lathe
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 20, 2019, 12:18:58 pm
Most definitely, a drink holder would be a tremendous addition!
Hawkdancer
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Post by: TSA on March 20, 2019, 09:47:05 pm
The only thing missing is the automatic shaft straightener >:D (lol)!
that made me chuckle- we straighten so many thousands upon thousands of shafts a month here, that we have finally come up with a plan( incl a load list ;D) for an automatic shaft straightener.
it will be pricey- but will maybe give me a few days off a year- so that maybe i could go hunting again :BB