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Title: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: MattZA on April 14, 2019, 03:53:41 am
Hi all!

Been a while since I posted anything.

Here's a simple little twig I spent half an hour carving.

It's not complete, hence the linen wrapping on the bottom nock, and the gaudy gold ribbon handle (I was considering giving it to my niece at one point).

Massaranduba/bulletwood self bow. 46" ntn. 1 1/8" wide at the fades. Relatively straight line taper to 1/4" tips. I made the whole thing by eye, so take "straight line" with a pinch of salt. Balau nock(s). It pulls 38lbs at 23" of draw. 1 1/4" of set immediately after unstringing and having shot around 300 arrows. That drops to around 3/4" set after about an hour.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter
Post by: MattZA on April 14, 2019, 03:55:11 am
More photos...

Unfortunately I had to use a gross artificial string from dyneema, but it'll do.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: Ryan Jacob on April 14, 2019, 05:53:08 am
Something seems... off. Is the bottom limb ever so slightly weaker, or is it just the photo?
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: MattZA on April 14, 2019, 06:03:18 am
Yea it is a tiny bit weaker in one place. I have no idea why, since it's actually thicker than its surroundings.

I might heat treat that section to stiffen it up, although I'm not sure if heating massaranduba does much, since it's so dense already.

It's clearly not very stressed, despite pulling as much as 45# at around 26".

Spits out an arrow with authority though, I'm actually quite impressed!
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: bjrogg on April 14, 2019, 06:12:33 am
I would agree. Top limb looks just a bit stiff. Bottom limb just a bit weak. All in all not to bad though Matt. I didn't notice handle area. Could you flip it over?
Bjrogg
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: Marc St Louis on April 14, 2019, 06:12:55 am
I don't believe beefwood reacts well to heat so I wouldn't try it.  It does look like the bottom limb has a slightly different bend than the top.  Well done none the less.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: MattZA on April 14, 2019, 06:21:23 am
Thanks guys. I'm chuffed considering I used a Swiss army knife and a spare 4" by 4" piece of 180 grit sandpaper. Oh, and a drop of superglue for the nock.

Bjrogg - Yea I could flip it over. I've effectively just left a small section stiff(ish) in the middle for a handle. It bends ever so slightly, but there's no reason I couldn't use the weaker side as the top.

Marc - I'm so glad you responded. I think I've read your TBB chapter about 50 times. It's where I got the idea it won't respond well to heat. That said, you called this beefwood. Isn't that a different wood to bulletwood/massaranduba?
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 14, 2019, 06:23:49 am
Nice looking bow, and I agree with the others on the bottom limb.  If you flip it over it might be right on.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: PatM on April 14, 2019, 06:44:00 am
Looks pretty good.

 There is another tree called Beefwood but Massa is also called that.   It's a bit like "Ironwood" being used for several trees.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: ohma2 on April 14, 2019, 07:34:49 am
Good job with 30 minutes well spent.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: dratera on April 14, 2019, 07:38:46 am
Very nice for half an hour worth of work. Sure would take me longer to make something like that
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: DC on April 14, 2019, 07:52:54 am
Looks nice. I ddi a quick toothpick measure on my screen and it looks like you're drawing it from above center on the string. That may be making the bottom limb look weird.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: PatM on April 14, 2019, 08:19:46 am
I would just tweak the tiller and go with the longer draw if you've already drawn it that far.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: MattZA on April 14, 2019, 10:23:56 pm
Thanks chaps!

PatM, I know you've got quite a bit of experience with Massa. Have you found it any good as a selfbow? I had previously heard that it tends to take a set easily, but this one clearly hasn't. Somebody else drew it to 26" and it only extended the set to 1 1/2". Also, what would you do to the tiller? Even it out across both limbs and take the loss of draw weight on the chin? If it responded to heat treatment I had considered heating the weaker section of limb.

DC, yea you're right I think I was. I haven't served the string yet, and I had the camera on a 10 second timer, so I had to hurry ;D - The bottom limb is definitely weaker though.
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 16, 2019, 07:06:49 pm
pretty good results for the time and effort involved!  Good work, Matt!
Title: Re: A 30 minute bunny hunter (46", 38# at 23")
Post by: MattZA on April 16, 2019, 11:13:17 pm
Cheers JW! It's a lovely wood. Ipe dense, harder than Osage very forgiving - just don't drop the moisture too much!