Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: paulc on April 16, 2019, 08:23:49 pm
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Anyone have a link to a good YouTube video for doing a double Loop Flemish twist string? I tried to tonight, and while the first Loop was easy the second Loop was really frustrating. I ended up having to tie a knot in the bottom Loop to try and avoid total failure.
Thanks, Paul
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I adapted the method used https://youtu.be/7RvOwm4wnwU in this video, and made my own jig consisting of two halves that I clamp at either end of my workbench to suit the string length.........
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChoCE77TNrA
The main thing is to take the twist out of the bundles after you make the first loop. I put the loop on a nail and untwist all the bundles before I start the second loop. I do the same after the second loop is finished as you will have way too much twist on one end that will make one end over twisted and the other with few twists in it.
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I twist forward and then back. I wrap a twist tie around the bottom of the first loop to keep it from unraveling. Unravel the body of the string. Then twist the top loop in the same fashion. I stretch the strong over a nail and twist counter clockwise. Jawge
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Really have to make sure your twisting everything in the right direction. If you twist second loop in wrong direction it unwinds first loop. I really don't like making strings but I am getting better at it.
Bjrogg
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So don't twist the the first loop, then the string and then try to make the second loop.... (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)
That will likely be helpful! Paul
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Twist right then lay left or visa versa. I don't think it matters as long as you lay opposite the twist. I only make one loop and a bowyers knot on the bottom.
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I put a string on it tied at one end. Make the new string without the second loop completed. Put the new string on the bow over the string you have on it (it will have 2 strings on it). Now wrap the tag end around the end and mark where it passes thru the string grooves. Now just twist it to that length, making sure you are twisting the proper direction so it doesnt undo the string.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChoCE77TNrA
The main thing is to take the twist out of the bundles after you make the first loop. I put the loop on a nail and untwist all the bundles before I start the second loop.
I do this and then I counter twist about twenty twists into each strand. As you twist up the second loop all the counter twists come out and you end up with two twisted loops and all untwisted string in between.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChoCE77TNrA
The main thing is to take the twist out of the bundles after you make the first loop. I put the loop on a nail and untwist all the bundles before I start the second loop.
I do this and then I counter twist about twenty twists into each strand. As you twist up the second loop all the counter twists come out and you end up with two twisted loops and all untwisted string in between.
I do the counter twists as well
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I always hold string the same and twist every loop the same. I e had good luck since I started doing it that way.
Bjrogg
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I was having a cabling problem not sure if thats yur prob. Anyway I got this photo somewhere and it helps me to make a much better second loop.
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What Eric said.
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What Eric said.
Exactly I just thought maybe the photo would help, kind of a visual animal myself.
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So what is cabling..? Paul
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At 8:45 . . . "Cabling" is what happens if ya don't get all that twisting out of the plies making up the 2 bundles before beginning the 2nd loop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pkEKym0wyM&t=20s
Good luck.
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I saw a quicker way to do it the method Clay Hayes does seems to take a while. I watched a few videos making flemish but never saw that way of doing it. New one on me.
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I saw a quicker way to do it the method Clay Hayes does seems to take a while. I watched a few videos making flemish but never saw that way of doing it. New one on me.
He does a Flemish twist loop on one end and a spliced loop(like loggers and sailors use) on the other. It looks like it makes it easier to get the length right. I've often wondered why he doesn't do a spliced loop on both ends.
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Found another...clearly don't need to worry about middle of string until after both loops are done...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C07evRZT_PQ&list=PLqRRMQuz0SK5RomspAcOGaPSAtBC2BnhL
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She untwists the middle before making the second loop right around 17:04