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Title: Friction fire help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 06, 2019, 03:49:02 am
I am new to making friction fire and I keep burning through my hearth board. I'm using horse weed spindle and white pine hearth board. I get good smoke but before I can get an ember I've went the whole way through my hearth board. Am I putting to much pressure on it? It's almost 1/4 inch thick.
Title: Re: Friction fire help
Post by: Hawkdancer on May 06, 2019, 06:53:52 am
Maybe try a harder hearth board, and some shavings/sawdust in the pit, but I am no expert on that method!  Seems like I saw some instructions on the web a while back.  Have to dig out. My Air Force survival manual and the Ranger Handbook!
Title: Re: Friction fire help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 06, 2019, 09:07:56 am
Jake, finesse not brute strength. :o First just go slow and easy all you are doing is warming up both spindle and hearth board, next watch your notch and build some sawdust, no dust no coal, after you have a good bit of black dust start increasing  speed and down pressure, now hit it twice with max speed and  you will see dust smoking on out side of pile. Stop and let coal build an catch your breath , no hurry coal will last a long time if you built up enough dust. Are using the hearth and spindle that I sent you. Either way you are almost there . I actually had shorter times on my fires when it was 4 deg. and low humidity. Built 4 or 5 fires Sat. and took just slightly a few more passes with wet warm higher humidity. Also got a coal with white pine hearth and giant goldenrod spindle. Horseweed still my favorite. Oh, I am 70 yrs. young so no more brute strength left here >:(. Just work on your technique and remember 3 elements of fire. Oxygen, fuel and heat.  Here is a pic of the 4 degree coal from Feb. Good Luck Bob
Title: Re: Friction fire help
Post by: aaron on May 06, 2019, 10:58:41 am
Good advice above. I use hearths that are at least 3/4 thick
Title: Re: Friction fire help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 06, 2019, 02:10:27 pm
Yes outback Bob it is the ones you sent. Thanks for the tips. I'll try finesse.  The horseweed spindle doesnt take much till I start seeing some smoke while the Mullen seams to take a little longer but I guess I had been going brute strength. It's a dying skill. Thanks guys. I'll keep ya posted on my progress