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Title: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 29, 2019, 09:54:33 am
Heres a couple common plant/weeds that grow in western pa. Can anyone tell me what they are? I'm still trying to learn what's in my area.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2019, 10:35:07 am
The first one looks like dock(curly possibly) the second one could possibly be a milkweed. Break a leaf and if milky substance comes out then it is milkweed.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 29, 2019, 03:49:41 pm
Does dock have any good uses? Is it edible? The second one doesnt have any Milky substance coming out of it. Any other idea?
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 29, 2019, 04:43:35 pm
Jake, I'm going to say dock also, and the second photo looks like NewYork Ironweed. If it is it will get pretty tall and have a purple flower late in the yr, August early Sept. Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Pat B on May 29, 2019, 04:50:12 pm
Do the leaves come off the stalk in a whirl, on the same plain or are they opposite or alternate? A pic from the side will show probably.
 I don't think it's NY ironweed. We have it here and it isn't the same.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 29, 2019, 06:06:01 pm
Pat, went back outside and your right not Ironweed, I have I believe the same plant as Jake . Long 6 x 1 inch entire leave very slightly toothed 3 parrell ribs also alternate and no stem and not clasped. My new guess,  Aster or possible one of the many goldenrods, Way to many aster and golden rods for my amateur plant mind. This one is going to bother me because I have this plant in abundance and know it but no flower at this time so drawing a blank. Sorry Jake for the highjack, Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 30, 2019, 05:13:34 am
Anyone know uses for these 2? I'm going to do some tests with fibers from them to see the strength as far as cordage. I'm kind of trying to find some plant fibers that would be strong enough for a bow string. No yucca in these parts. Just trying to learn some of what was lost and forgotten from these parts.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 30, 2019, 05:30:36 am
The first looks like dock to me.
The second look like either goldenrod or marestail. A little hard to tell apart from pictures.
I don't know any uses but that doesn't mean there aren't any
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 30, 2019, 05:44:43 am
Jake, if you want a strong string try stinging nettles or dogbane , you can also eat the nettles but DO NOT EAT DOGBANE, Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Pat B on May 30, 2019, 07:08:20 am
Dock has medicinal uses as an antifungal wash. Without identifying the other it's hard to say.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Hawkdancer on May 30, 2019, 10:48:51 am
Seem to remember dock was used as greens by some folks, though not the best choice.  Supposedly similar to rhubarb, the roots have medicinal uses, and dye makng(yellow).  Related to sorrel.  I Need to get a better plant id book! 
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 30, 2019, 11:37:21 am
Is this stinging nettle?
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 30, 2019, 12:47:22 pm
Jake, not stinging nettles, it is hard to ID plants from pics alone but my guess is Wild Lettuce or some type of Thistle. Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 30, 2019, 01:09:07 pm
Bummer. I guess I need to get a book. Or find someone in my area that I can learn from
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Azmdted on May 30, 2019, 02:29:35 pm
Iím fairly new to Maryland from Arizona and still trying to figure out all these eastern things here. Thereís an app called ĎPicture Thisí which is sometimes a good source for plant ID to me.  Itís best if thereís a flower, but for free itís worth a shot. Just snap a photo in the app and it will tell you what it thinks.  It might help you get closer to positive IDs.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 30, 2019, 06:20:00 pm
Not nettles. I'm thinking bull thistle. I'll see if I can remember to get a picture of nettles tomorrow.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on May 31, 2019, 03:00:02 am
Would you want to send me some raw nettles? Would they last without being processed for a while?  I'd pay shipping.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 31, 2019, 03:53:07 am
Jake I really don't know. I've been thinking about giving them a try. Usually they are past their prime by now but they have been very slow this year. I've never tried them. I believe you blanch them or let them wilt? I should look up again. I believe you want the young tender ones or the tender tops of more mature ones. Maybe someone else could give more information.
I think I have a picture of a bow I put snake skins on with young nettles in background I'll look.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 31, 2019, 04:02:35 am
The plant by the tip of bow is a young nettles plant. From my understanding this is the best stage of growth to eat it. As it grows it gets very tall. The leaves elongate and it has little "whiskers" that sting you. It's instantly a itchy slightly painful sting that takes awhile to go away. Learned very young what it was if you know what I mean. Probably why I've never got the nerve up to use it yet. Are you going to eat it or use it for fiber?
Bjrogg
PS it looks a little bit like what we call "cat nip" at this young stage but quickly grow taller and leave stretch out longer.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 31, 2019, 05:12:47 am
Jake, Nettles seem to grow well along rivers and creek bottoms, I am sure you have them in your area of Pa. I usually pick a big ole burdock leaf and use for a glove to pick nettles, I like to get them when young and tender, You can still eat when mature just pick the tender tops, I have no experience with nettle cordage but have made some really strong cordage with dogbane. Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 31, 2019, 05:55:32 am
I agree with Outback. If you have dogbane it makes excellent cordage and it works quite easy.

Outback how do you prepare your nettles for eating? I suppose I could go to the cooking section and find a thread there.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 31, 2019, 08:47:38 am
BJ, there are lots of fancy recipes but I just pick and wash and steam or wilt them for 5 minutes or so and then a big pad of butter. I really like them with a nice deer chops and a couple of eggs in the morning. My wife sometimes cooks them in oil and a few spices, they all seem to be good. Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 31, 2019, 09:10:33 am
Thanks Bob. My main concern was getting rid of the stinging part. If I understand correctly then just letting them wilt down cures that problem. I've avoided the stuff like the plague for the last 50 years. I still remember that feeling from the stinger. at least I think I do.lol
bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Outbackbob48 on May 31, 2019, 01:26:21 pm
BJ, takes me back to my youth, fishing along the creeks with just a pair shorts an run into a patch of stinging nettles, didn't take long to lather up with some good creek mud to kinda ease the sting, :o  I think we kinda got use to them after awhile. ;D Bob
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on May 31, 2019, 01:48:57 pm
Yup outback that's the same cure we used.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Jakesnyder on June 01, 2019, 02:50:45 pm
Hey guys thanks for the info!
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: paulc on June 10, 2019, 06:58:42 pm
there are several plant ID apps available online.  The one I use is free, or at least I haven't given them any money yet.  PlantSnap in playstore.  Paul
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: mullet on June 21, 2019, 02:50:22 pm
PlantSnap is a real good , free App. I use it a lot. Just take a photo of the plant and it will tell you what it is or the family it is in.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: Allynhirsch on June 29, 2020, 11:58:24 am
Original post, second pic looks like goldenrod.
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: dylanholderman on July 18, 2020, 07:09:26 am
your last picture is just a thistle of some kind, not sure what type but i have a bunch of it growing in my back yard  ;D
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: bjrogg on August 08, 2020, 06:33:35 pm
Third one is a thistle. Not stinging nettles.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Plant id help
Post by: backwoodsguy on August 17, 2020, 01:49:27 pm
Check out a site called eattheweeds dot com. It has a www in front of it. The man's name is Dean Green and he shows a lot of pictures of edible plants.