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Title: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 01:08:22 pm
  I've decide that it's time to reach out.  ;D I know there are others that are struggling as well. :-[ :-[  A couple years ago I made a new friend (Juniper Junkie)  Unlike most of my other bowaholic friends, JJ lives close enough to be a huge influence on my life. At first it seemed like everything was healthy in our friendship. Talking bows and practicing shooting once a week to stay honed. But as time went on He became a very close friend and we started to share secrets. >:D >:D  We both have jobs that sometimes alow us to sneak off and explore our surrounding areas in search of wood, stone and hunting grounds. At first my wife thought "oh good, now he has someone to go with him"  but then she started getting suspicious when I'd answere the phone and she here wind blowing and birds singing in the background.
  I first realized I had a problem when I would wait or my phone to ring hoping it was JJ instead of a customer. ??? But soon i decided I didn't have to wait for JJ and I started sneaking out on my own.
 Today is a new day and I'm going out to the shop. I plan to keep the doors open and work on steel today. My hope are that the cold raw steel will keep me from being drawn to the warm touch, smell and beauty of the wood. :D 
 I know there are others struggling as well. Don't hide any more. This is your thread to open up and recieve help ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: John K on April 11, 2008, 01:22:03 pm
I find myself not eating or sleeping just dreaming about bows and arrows  ::) Is there help for me  ???
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 01:27:16 pm
 John, Are you dreaming and thinking about one bow or are you thinking that you need one of every Kind? We will need to assess how far along the disease has progressed.  keenan
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 11, 2008, 01:35:03 pm
Dear Keenan

Not sure what to do, my basement shop is flooded so no bow work this weekend, I found a place to cut some wood
but we have a late season snow storm with high winds, so it would be unadvisable to cut trees. I'm desperate for a fix don't think
I can make it through the weekend. What should I do??? Please help :-[
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Pat B on April 11, 2008, 01:38:57 pm
Keenan, I've been a sick puppy for many years now. It all started back in the mid 80s with Jay Massey's book, "The Bowyers Craft" and has progressively gotten worse. Is there hope for a cure...I sure hope NOT!!! ;D
  With friends like all of you guys, who needs enemas.  ;D    Pat

ps. Dana, think pasties and malt beverages. ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 01:41:59 pm
 Just take small steps Dana, don't look at the whole weekend picture, just one day at a time. Sometimes just hour by hour. Set small goals. Be content with maybe taking some spray paint and marking the trees and where you want to cut but try to leave the saw at home this time.  :D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 01:43:47 pm
 Pat, Some of us are to far down the road and can only warn others of the risk. Be strong and share your struggle. ;)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: John K on April 11, 2008, 01:45:31 pm
John, Are you dreaming and thinking about one bow or are you thinking that you need one of every Kind? We will need to assess how far along the disease has progressed.  keenan

I'm dreaming of one of every kind, sometimes two of every kind. Flipping through the pages of Primitve Archer hekps for a little while  :'(
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: TRACY on April 11, 2008, 01:57:46 pm
My name is Tracy and I'm a bowaholic. It gets so bad that I find excuses to go to the basement(aka bowyers workshop) to work on fixing little things in the house and don't surface for hours later sometimes. What should I do? Do I need help?
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 02:15:08 pm
  Dear John,  ;D  Your fairly advanced and need immediate help.   Wanting to taste and feel every kind of bow is a sure indication that your hooked and can't help yourself. ;D You need friends around you or you will never succeed. train up as many as you can and soon you can touch, hold and even shoot thier bows as well as your own. :o :o
 Tracy  This is known as basement binges. Isolation is never good. Set small goals and find a friend to help you keep you from isolating. Left alone you could slip into staring for long periods at the corner of shame bows. and that leads to hallucinations and thoughts that they might still make a bow.   ;) 
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Dustybaer on April 11, 2008, 02:39:40 pm
dear keenan,

my addiction started 4 years ago (but of course i didn't realize it was an addiction at the time).  i was gradually sucked into it by so-called friends who couldn't suffer anybody around them that was not addicted.  the climax of my addiction was reached at a gathering of bowaholics of the worst kind, down south, in the rural areas of tennessee.  some truly evil characters had lured me in with free lodging and food and even had free samples of my favorite drug waiting for me.  i was naive enough to swallow it hook, line and sinker and the first time i saw thru the scam was at the nashville airport, when heavy withdrawl symptoms shook my body and mind.  i went public shortly thereafter and i got a lot of sympathy from fellow bowaholics, but ultimately i have to cope with my addiction all by myself.  i am in dire need of your assistance, since i'm dying to get back to that evil place in tennessee for another fix.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 03:21:45 pm
Dusty, You are not alone. We've been able to identify many of these same type of backwoods operations taking place.Many respectfull buisness men /women and profesionals have beenlured in and led down the same path. Befor they knew they had a problem, they were going around without shoes and reverting back to animal skins. Often they would shun the supermarket and wander the hills foraging for food. Some never shave and grow long beard trying to blend in with the enviorment to stay hidden.
 We have planted some people on the inside but they often are obsorbed and persaded to that way of thinking. I've even heard reports that the numbers are growing at alarming rates. ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Tare on April 11, 2008, 03:28:24 pm
Dont laugh at me...but...my eyes got misty reading this. Kind of strange, huh?
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: John K on April 11, 2008, 03:30:45 pm
Showing you'r emotions is just part of the healing process  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 03:37:41 pm
Don't hold it inTare. You need to let it out. ;) It's going to be ok. Most of those affected do gain some control and develope coping methods. Most often live longer due to the decrease of stress in thier life. ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 11, 2008, 03:56:02 pm
Were all here for you Tare.

Your brother in addiction ;)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Tare on April 11, 2008, 04:06:25 pm
You guys are so funny. Yeap. I am feeling better already. Sure glad you all understand.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Aemkes on April 11, 2008, 04:20:59 pm
hi guys,
althoug last one broke few hours ago I think about the next one.
Is this addiction?  >:D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Badger on April 11, 2008, 04:27:08 pm
      we all joke about it but there is a lot of truth to the addiction thing, mine started about 10 years ago and continued to get worse until this year and finally seems to be leveling off. I have taken off in the morning for 2 hour shoots and come back after midnight cause I eneded up 300 miles away looking for wood. I have left for work in the morning and ended up following tree trimming trucks. Called in sick because I was in the middle of tillering out a bow. Have taken all the seats out of my suv so I can haul more. It just goes on and on LOL. Steve
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 11, 2008, 04:30:35 pm
 Oh Steve, Thank you for opening up. I have done the same things :D :D I was just afraid to say how strong the cravings are. I just hope my wife dosen't see this thread....LOL..although I think she already knows my problem ::)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cowboy on April 11, 2008, 08:18:36 pm
Ahh, a place to share. I work far away from the office so they don't know all that is going on. I've found myself taking pleasure rides around the country - coming back to the jobsite with loads of rocks or logs sicking out over the tail gate (funny looks from hands). I've met with other poor folks on here that share the same affliction and have spent half days with them talking bows and arrows or gathering. I'm afraid it shall only grow worse ;D.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: mullet on April 11, 2008, 08:44:56 pm
   Oh, I feel better now knowing there are other people like me. It started by chipping a simple arrowhead. Then I had to have a stick to put it on. So I saw arrows in every bush and bamboo patch I saw.
   I finished building an arrow and had to have something to shoot it with, fibreglass just didn't seem right. So, I find a little Hickory sapling and made my first bow. Gawd!, what a nite sweat I started. I can't drive down the road without seeing bows in all the trees I look at. I'm constantly looking for tall stands of Mosu Bamboo mixed in with the oaks, hickory and cedar.
   It is an addiction I finally realize I can't fight. Kinda like wanting Sturgeon skin and can't get it here (hint,hint). Heck, I've been driving around Bayou country in Louisiana today wishing I wasn't flying back after seeing all the Mulberry here.
   Is it too late, or is there help?

Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: kayakfisher on April 11, 2008, 11:08:24 pm
Well ! my name is Dennis and well I'm a Bowyer. Oh that wasn't so bad I have built four bows and each time I get one done I get this feeling like there is a different style that is better . So I just have to do one more. My wife tells me [aint you got enough of those things our bedroom walls look like a arsenal now, and you rub on those sticks more than you do me] and I cant help but tell her ,just one more. I think she feels she can cure me because now she says well if its one more ,then do  one for me. All I can think of is that beautifull yellow wood , and the curly shavings and fine dust it makes.I stand at work and watch the hands of the clock  move so slowly as if time stands still . Cant wait to get home ,to the beautifull yellow wood.My mind is filled with intricate designs and gracefull curves , snakeskins ,and leather ,horsehair,and paint and Finnish.The next one will be better a different design ,Finnishes a different gracefull curve.My job ,my family my life what will I do! man I need one more !
                                                                                 Dennis
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: deerhunter97370 on April 12, 2008, 03:15:00 am
I was driving through the parking lot of a mini mall in Corvallis and the elm trees used for landscaping I heard them calling to me to cut them down and bows out of them. I told my wife what the trees said and she said she didnt hear anything. Then 5 min. latter We where driving threw Oregon State University campus and the have a row of 40 foot elms(at least I think thier elms) telling me to call OSU Landscaping and ask if I can have them to make bows out of I they ever cut them down. My wife said I can do that since they are bigger. ;D Joel
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: juniper junkie on April 12, 2008, 03:18:12 am
Dear "Dr. Phil of the Shavings", I too must confess my addiction ::) Oh, it started innocently enough, just a recurve from a pawn shop. But soon I was wanting more! Found myself wondering, "could I, a meer mortal, actually make a bow"!  ???I had to try >:D to my suprise, my first attempt was a success! now to try to make a bow from all natural materials, what woods could I use? how would I start? bowyers bibles, the holy grail of bowbuilding was the answer! I was saved!!!! my first primitive bow was juniper, (go figure) and it actually was a really good shooting bow, until I let a friend of mine pull it. he pulled it back to about 31" and held it until it exploded :o I was crushed, my baby was gone, reduced to kindling. >:( but alas! I could make another one, then another, and another.... you get the picture. then what to shoot from them, no store-bought arrows, no, I would make my own ;D, then tips, I could chip them the way the indians did. I had arrived! I a completley incurable "bowaholic", and as I tell Keenan, " we're not good for each other" :D now to go forth and harvest game to make quivers, and clothing! the tipi is up and fire going, ready to cook dinner, then retire on a bed of furs :P. although I am a little chapped from my new loincloth.  :o I have to let my wife drive me, because I tend to be focused on the local trees and bushes for possible materials, wait...was that a Yew tree?? stop the truck! I'll get my handaxe!!!! I have noticed quite a bit more body hair lately......there is no cure..... ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: 1/2primitive on April 12, 2008, 12:59:26 pm
Ah yes, the simple stick and string continue to hold sway in our modern society.
I, too, am a bowaholic. But I didn't thnk I would be addicted to something this young!  ;D
    Sean
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 12, 2008, 01:06:58 pm
 Deerhunter ,STOP!!! DON'T DO IT!!!  OSU is the tree hugger snake pit of the world. It's a set up and a trap! Even if you gained permision, you would be filmed and crucified on prime time news. :o Put the saw down and step away!!
  JJ  is headed out in the desert today and I'm still at home looking at the "honey do" list. This is not good........Don't leave JJ...... ???   Ok back to reallity,,The truth is I have'nt told JJ that there is another freind that has conections as well. He thinks I'm just staying home to get things done around the place but my other buddy is comeing over with a truck load of Hazelnut  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D   Major score ;D ;D ;D ;D   Ssssshhhhhh
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: huntertrapper on April 12, 2008, 01:25:48 pm
we have interventions at my house as to why i started sacluding myself from the "modern' world and went "wild" ;)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: kayakfisher on April 12, 2008, 02:49:22 pm
Do you think we can get a government grant to help us, If'n we get it we  can build more bows
        Dennis
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: huntertrapper on April 12, 2008, 03:59:42 pm
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 13, 2008, 01:09:42 am
 Ok I fell to temptations again. ::) ::)  My good buddy Juniper Junky was out of town and I had no one to turn to for help.  :oWhen my supplier showed up with a trailer load of premium hazelnut I lost all controll and couldn't help my self.  >:DI know, I know, now I'll have to debark seal and sort and eventially build more bows. ;D I know if the raw materials are roght here in plain view that it's going to be hard to resist but It was free.  :-\I didn't have any chance to run or call for help,,,,heck I was even doing the honey do list at home and the pusher showed up. ;D ;D ;D 
  Thanks guys I feel better now that thats out in the open.   ;D

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Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: deerhunter97370 on April 13, 2008, 05:05:18 am
Keenan Id be happy to come take some of that off your hands so your not as tempted to fall off the wagon. ;D Joel
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 13, 2008, 08:29:18 am
 Joel,  ;D You'll just have to come on over when we do our Cnetral Oregon rendavous May 17-18 we are still working out details but things are starting to come together on it. I hope to get some of this prepped out for people to have something to carve on. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 13, 2008, 08:36:46 am
Dang I need a better pusher, mine just foists the low grade junk of on me :o ;) ::)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 13, 2008, 11:05:48 am
No, I don't have a problem.  I can stop this at any time.  Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go out to my shop and work on some honey-do's for the wife.  I'll be back in a few hours.   >:D

Mike
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 13, 2008, 12:35:09 pm
   LIAR  LIAR  LIAR ;D ;D ;D  I bet you thought Denial was a river  ;D  I going to tell :P
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: david w. on April 13, 2008, 01:50:44 pm
Hello my name is David and i am hopelessly addicted to bow building.  i need help ;D

i dont have a honey do list so i can do whats on my list ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: kayakfisher on April 13, 2008, 03:11:02 pm
David the time will come when that young sweet thing will be breathing in your ear and trying to slip the shackle on your finger ,then your life begins
                                                                                  Dennis
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: sailordad on April 13, 2008, 04:43:22 pm
               hey david,

just remember what they say,

"man isnt complete untill he's married, then hes finished."
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: deerhunter97370 on April 13, 2008, 09:40:01 pm
Joel,  ;D You'll just have to come on over when we do our Cnetral Oregon rendavous May 17-18 we are still working out details but things are starting to come together on it. I hope to get some of this prepped out for people to have something to carve on. ;) ;)
Keenan if I can get off work Ill be there. It would be my first P.A. event since I started this addiction. Joel
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 13, 2008, 09:57:19 pm
Got my fix in today cut shafts, split and debarked staves, cooked on da grill had a few beers man I got it badddddddd ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Jesse on April 13, 2008, 10:27:43 pm
Well Dr. Keenan I hope you are taking new clients because I think I got it but not sure. My wife thinks I need help. Last night a good action movie was on and I was on the couch but my bow was behind the couch. She caught me staring back at the bow behind the couch with a blank la la land look on my face instead of watching the movie. Is this a sign of the disease? I also have started looking at all trees and judging there value solely on weather they would make a bow or not. The sad part is if I have it I dont even know if I want the cure.  Jesse
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cowboy on April 13, 2008, 10:36:53 pm
Sounds like you got it goin on Dana ;D.
  Jesse-S: Not to wory - at least you weren't stroking your bow while you were watching the movie. You do need intervention now though before your wife takes pictures of you watching the movie with the bow in your lap :-X :D ;D.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: juniper junkie on April 13, 2008, 10:54:24 pm
keenan, you're holdin' out on me!!! >:D "honey do list", my eye...you were just waitin' to get that load of bow wood so you could torture me with it! at least I didnt cave in to temptation and cut some juniper or wild rose arrowshafts while I was camping, nope , I was able to keep it under control, not like some people :D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Otoe Bow on April 14, 2008, 01:59:12 am
I told you I had honey-do's.  I just finished putting my new wood vise on my work bench.  Wife's been wanting that done for some time now.   8)

Mike
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: RidgeRunner on April 14, 2008, 08:42:56 am
Dr. Keenan:
My name is David I am totaly addicted to Bow-Building.
It all started when I was just a child of 7 or 8.  I was first introduced to this by my Daddy.  We were poor and he made me a hickory stick bow and a set of arrows for my birthday.
I have been hooked ever since.  I chased every chicken, cat, stray dog and my sister until she and everthing else as well ran when they saw me.  This addiction has been growing ever since.  But lately it has gotten much worse!
Saturday I went out on a total binge.  I almost did not survive.
It went on for hours.  I returned to it so many times that soon it was all I could do just to walk.  The worst part is that I lured another man half-way across the county to the same binge. He is (well was anyway) a fine family man.  His profession is to bring good, clean, reliable sources of drinking water to peoples homes.  What more noble profession is there. ???  But I lured him away from his job with a promise of pure Alabama Gold.  It was his first dose of such pure stuff.  When he left about an hour before dark his eyes were glassed over.  He had a 50 or so mile drive ahead of him and I feared that he would be pulled over for DWO.  "Driving with Osage"  I also feared that some other addicted person might try to knock him off and take his supply.  Dr. Keenan,  Is there hope for me?   Can I have a normal life?  Why cant I just set and watch TV like everone else?

David   
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 14, 2008, 12:45:18 pm
 David,  You can still learn from this situation.  :oThe best part is that your have recegnized that your addit=ction has caused another to stumble. It's often the case that our addiction affects everyone around us. The numbers of the influence is growing at an alarming rate ;)
  Your case is the same story that has been played out for generations. The father figure has had a dramatic influence on the impressionable mind of the child. The pull of this cycle is so strong that few ever break the cycle.
  DWO (Driving with osage) is a serious situation and can lead to MOPB ( Manufacture of Primitive Bows) . Soon poeple are out of control turning thier basement and garages into wood shops. In some cases the addiction is so bad the supplies have even been seen on the kitchen table and in the living room around the children.
  As people come forward I'm sure we will be shocked as to the extent of the epidemic. I will keep this updated on our findings. For now I encourage you to support your friend. He needs your support and could possibly slip into withdrawl in left alone ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: sailordad on April 14, 2008, 07:58:06 pm
   Dr.Keenan,
my name is Tim, and i have a problem. i am addicted to bow building. i havent had this affliction all that long but it seems to be geting worse everyday.
it all started with a boo/ipe elb kit i purchased on line. well one thing led to another and i purchsed some OSAGE from another addict
 ( to remain nameless for now) well he was more that generous and sent along an extrasliver of oasge to practice chasing a ring with and make into a kids bow.
now every tree i look at all i see is bows,bows and more bows. i look at a bush and all i can see are arrows. now all i want is OSAGE and nothing else seems to satisfy anymore. i still use hickory and others as i can find it but thtas rare here right now. but i still try to buy on line when the money is availible to me.
my wife does nothing to help me,she seems to encourage my addiction by telling me it will be ok,just go downstairs and work on a bow for a little while.
now all i can think of is who wantsme to make them a bow and where can  get staves at.
i think i am a junky now.
 is there any possible hope for me?

well i goota get into my man cave now, i NEED a fix real bad man,cant take it any longer,goota go scrape on the little sliver of a stave for awhile.
please help.

                                                                        tim
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 15, 2008, 09:24:12 am
 Tim,  We've found that often when a spouse is encouraging your addiction and useage there is almost always an underlined motive. It may be that she has a habit of her own that she is wanting to explore or has already ventured into.This can be a go thing and help her to understand your cravings.However caution should be used as this can lead to the clasic senario of  ( if yoyr buying more bows stuff then I'm getting,,,,,,,,)  If this cycle starts it's best to use the reverse psychology method and buy her stuff first. ;D ;DThen well you get the idea. 

  As we can clearly see this is a real condition. Few have ever stopped at just one bow. And as JJ and others have stated, it often leads into a full blown addiction that encludes arrow manufacturing, flint knapping, and weekend getaways that include livig in teepee's and wearing animal skins. ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Ryano on April 15, 2008, 11:46:56 am
I was sitting in my lazy boy the other night, holding my most recent piece of work on my lap admiring the the sexy curves and pointy tips. When my wife interupted my train of thought by saying "what are you doing? Do you love that bow or something?" I was almost at a loss for words, No, no honey its not what you think I replied...........I think I got it bad.  :o
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 15, 2008, 11:58:03 am
 Ryano,Take a lead from Bill Cosby,,,"I did made it for You"   ;D ;D  Follow up with,  "notice the sexy curves just like you". If that dosen't work, You going to have to go for broke and pull out all the hard core tactics.  Pick out your best stave and ask for her help with it. ;D >:D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: uwe on April 15, 2008, 04:08:10 pm
My name is Uwe and I`m very sick with bows. I hope to read all of these answers in this thread some day, but now I have to go into the workshop again, cause my bowlevel is extremely flat now. I can`t put my finersdfgnbej no more corjhfjghertly on thhjfjjjnbdv lettersdjekgjfvnjs. I  ustm og won rfo orwking won... :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 15, 2008, 10:35:02 pm
 ;D ;D ;D  Back at ya.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: radius on April 16, 2008, 05:18:29 am
Keenan,

My name is Scott and I've got it bad:  i'm a bowmakin' fool and i can't think of nothing else.  I don't have a proper workshop, so when I wake up it's to the site of a 6x8 tarp spread on my bedroom floor with bowforms, glues, clamps, inner tube straps, a bench plane, and right now, two giant hunks of yew.  I wake, make coffee, and carry my tools out to my makeshift bench under the landlord's deck.  Then I spend several hours cutting, sanding, rasping, shaving, dreaming, imagining, testing, flexing, cleaning up shavings and dust, measuring...

i spend money on wood and glue when I should buy new pants and shoes because my clothes are reverting to a primitive state.  Soon my toes'll be poking out, but hey, it's gonna be summer soon:  who cares?  And when the knees on these jeans go:  shorts, no problem.  I look for work but say, "I can't start til the day after tomorrow..."  i spend too much time on the computer reading about bows, how they're made, checking out other people's failures and mistakes...women call me and send me messages, they say, "YOu're so hot, you got it goin on!"  I'm like, "Whatever, I'm busy..."

But i'm cool with it.  I like making bows...beats drinking all the time!
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 16, 2008, 09:16:57 am
Just keep telling yourself that   "your fine it's the rest of the world thats messed up"  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 16, 2008, 09:04:41 pm
I know a couple of southern good ol boys that are in severe denial :o Haven't seen them step forward
yet and admit to their severe addiction. These guys are so horribly addicted that they formed a club,
built workshops & shooting ranges. Then they get together most week ends and play with their toys
cook tons of food. Then come monday morning they post pictures of their decadent lifestyle.
Worst of all they are enablers always luring new victims in with promises of southern hospitality and food,
then if ya can believe it, every May they host a three day convention of Bowaholics :o :o :o
Do you think their is any help for these guys??? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: juniper junkie on April 17, 2008, 02:04:45 am
David,  You can still learn from this situation.  :oThe best part is that your have recegnized that your addit=ction has caused another to stumble. It's often the case that our addiction affects everyone around us. The numbers of the influence is growing at an alarming rate ;)
  Your case is the same story that has been played out for generations. The father figure has had a dramatic influence on the impressionable mind of the child. The pull of this cycle is so strong that few ever break the cycle.
  DWO (Driving with osage) is a serious situation and can lead to MOPB ( Manufacture of Primitive Bows) . Soon poeple are out of control turning thier basement and garages into wood shops. In some cases the addiction is so bad the supplies have even been seen on the kitchen table and in the living room around the children.
  As people come forward I'm sure we will be shocked as to the extent of the epidemic. I will keep this updated on our findings. For now I encourage you to support your friend. He needs your support and could possibly slip into withdrawl in left alone ;D
there is a much more serious infraction that is: DWLFO (driving while looking for osage) that is much more dangerous in that it distracts the driver to stare at trees along the roadside, causing him to lose focus on driving his vehicle. often escalates into the driver stopping his vehicle and running into the woods with a saw in a almost hypnotonic state! not pretty ;D this ugly disease also spreads to other flora  such as wild rose, very disturbing :P
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 17, 2008, 03:10:11 am
  Dana; Be very carefull, We've been watching those to for some time and we are fairly sure they are heavy suppliers and are ring leaders.  This type can often become very paranode and go into crazed hysteria killing the surounding animals  by the droves and having sacrificial meals even. We are fairly certain that much of the food they eat is from the unlucky that have wandered into thier path.
 You are right about the yearly gathering. I've heard it's similar to woodstock with tents everywhere and people runing around in animal skins. Many that have gone have never been the same. We sent a spy but the last we heard was that he had a bow pledging an allegence to the brotherhood with all thier names on it. He seems to have won thier support but we fear he has been comprimised.  ;D
 
 JJ You are so right DWLFO is a serious problem. Some have even drove right off the road looking at trees ;D  (If you repeat that to my wife I will no longer be able to go out to play) ;D But an even more serious situation happens when two or even three are in the same truck  and they are all looking and shouting when they see something ;D All of the sudden thier are three of them running into the woods with saws and all thinkng the other person was driving.
  This always leads to a serious overloading of a vehicle to the point that a driver barely has rome to drime an the (Honda Fit) is saging seriously in the tail end. >:D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Dustybaer on April 17, 2008, 04:16:31 am
WHO YOU CALLIN COMPROMISED  >:D  ;D

yes, dana and keenan, that's the very bunch i was talking about in my earlier post.  i'm glad the word about them is spreading so fast.  y'all need to go, check it our, just to see what i'm talking about.  besides, y'all have SOME willpower left, right?  so you wouldn't be in any danger to pick up this evil addiction.  just look at me:  i ain't addicted, i don't know what y'all's problem is.  in fact, i'm so bored with this topic, i'm gonna go make some shavings, just to prove i ain't addicted  ;D

Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on April 17, 2008, 09:51:36 am
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dear keenan,

my addiction started 4 years ago (but of course i didn't realize it was an addiction at the time).  i was gradually sucked into it by so-called friends who couldn't suffer anybody around them that was not addicted.  the climax of my addiction was reached at a gathering of bowaholics of the worst kind, down south, in the rural areas of tennessee.  some truly evil characters had lured me in with free lodging and food and even had free samples of my favorite drug waiting for me.

Dear Dr. Keenan,
I must confess that my desire for varying colored dusts with yellow as my favorite has reached an all time high for me that I doubt I'll ever be able to come down from. It's not enough that the decor in the great room of our house is overwhelmed with bows on cabinets, with truoil bottles, leather, thread, needles, razor blades, bow string jigs, etc., etc. etc. covering practically all table surfaces. Everything in my basement has a coating of the yellow dust, with yellow shavings on the floor that I can't bring myself to sweep up! :'( 

But worse yet, I'm determined to bring others down with me...yes I'm one of those "evil characters" that Dustybaer was referring to when delivering his own sad story to you! :(    I along with others who I'll leave nameless until they can bring themselves to face their own bowyering addition through confession...Pappy ;D  have been working for months now preparing for what undoubtedly will be the largest gathering of bow makin' addicts our part of the country as ever seen. We spin our webs to catch unsuspecting innocent folks...even kids! , in our attempt to bring more and more into the growing masses seeking the dreaded yellow dust! I'm ashamed for even being a part of this, but I can't help myself! " I can't get enough...of that yellow stuff... I mean dust"!

Dr. Keenan, is there any glimmer of hope for me to climb out of the depths of this all emcompassing addiction? Or is all loss...? :'(
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: RidgeRunner on April 17, 2008, 11:11:12 am
Dr. Keenan:
I am glad to see that at least you have some will power left.
Surly you must have some.  You still haul your bow wood in a Honda Fit? ??? :D
I have seen people who are so addicted with this bow making thing that they severely (OVERLOAD) large pickup trucks with bow wood.
Chevy, Ford and Dodge 2500 size trucks have been seen sagging in the tail from the load.

The worst case I ever saw was at this "gathering" in Tennessee last year.  This big bald dude overloaded his Dodge truck something terrable.
Bow wood was hanging off the tailgate by as much as 4 feet.  It was also plied up over the sidewalls.  It was a terrable sight when he drove off. Worst yet he drove all the way across the contry with this load.  He drove through rain, snow, sleet, dark of night and a tornado in Kansas.  Nothing would stop him from getting his stash safely home.  I must confess that tucks have been overloaded by me as well.  But they were small trucks.  An occasionally I even get the tailgate closed.  So surly "these other people"  are worse off that I am.

I plan to attend this "gathering" in Tennessee once more this year.  I am some what apprehensive.  There are rumors that It will be a bit different this year.  Large suppiles of the really hard stuff are supposed to be on hand.  Free for the taking.  I fear that I may partake of the hard stuff and never be able to put it down.

David 
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 17, 2008, 01:12:32 pm
 David,I'm sorry to have miss led you. My will power is no stronger then others and probably worst since I was the first to come forward ;D The (Honda Fit) that I was refering to is proudly owned by DTiller. ;D I must admit I will stoop to using the biggest truck (and Trailer) available. >:D I have severly overloaded our silverado more times then my wife is aware of.
  I must also admit that I have become friends with every tree trimmer in the area. Not because I want to be friends but because of thier access to constant supply lines ;D I've even been kown to swerve into the coned off area of the county road crew as they clear trees from roads.
  Yes I must admit that I am not sure that I am any stronger then all my fellow bowyer brothers. I'm just striving to devolpe coping methods at this point :D
 
WHO YOU CALLIN COMPROMISED  >:D  ;D

yes, dana and keenan, that's the very bunch i was talking about in my earlier post.  i'm glad the word about them is spreading so fast.  y'all need to go, check it our, just to see what i'm talking about.  besides, y'all have SOME willpower left, right?  so you wouldn't be in any danger to pick up this evil addiction.  just look at me:  i ain't addicted, i don't know what y'all's problem is.  in fact, i'm so bored with this topic, i'm gonna go make some shavings, just to prove i ain't addicted  ;D


Dusty Your in serious denial bro. I will clear my schedule for an imediate intervention. This is a call to arms for all those in Dusty area. He needs immediate help ::)
 Greg You have taken the first and hardest step. (UNLIKE THE OTHER UNMENTIONED RING LEADER)   The fact that you are so much a part of the organization and involved in the up coming gathering is a major concern. It's highly doubtfull that you will be able to abstain from the lure of so much influenece while in that situation.  Try very hard to limit yourself and only touch one item at a time. Mixing the hard stuff with the gold can be deadly.  Do your best to be strong and if posible watch but don't touch :D

 Pappy (I MEAN UNNAMED)  It's ok many others have come forward. Don't wait till it's to late.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 23, 2008, 12:46:36 pm
 No one having any weekend binges and no one seeking counsel. Gosh everyone must be healed and on the road to recovery :D :D :D   NOT  Don't think I don't know what's going on. You are all just staying quiet cause you know your up coming plans to attend and indulge at the "gathering" of gatherings is just around the corner.  :o :o    Dr. Keenan
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 23, 2008, 12:54:49 pm
Yup going on a ROAD TRIP to the Great Enabler Who Shall Stay unnamed ;D eh Pappy ;)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: RidgeRunner on April 23, 2008, 02:51:59 pm
 Keenan:
Are you going to see Pappy?
If so, bring you couch.
We may all need a bit of therapy before we have to leave. :D

David
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on April 24, 2008, 09:17:04 am
I'm afraid this upcoming event that so many of us are secretly making plans to attend will conclusively have us all sunk so deeply into the depths of bowaholicism that no amount of counciling can cure...even from such a fine and distinguished man of learning as our own Dr. Keenan! Even so...I knowingly under the guidance of the "unnamed" ahhum, Pappy ;D...continue to prepare for the gathering... driving the sheep to the slaughter! :'( ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 24, 2008, 12:37:02 pm
 As Greg stated it's highly doubtfull that any will come back from this event uninfected. I would say it might be helpfull to take an acountability partner however in this situation it's highly dangerous and others are often infected as well.
  Here is a photo of the (unnamed) taken by one of our operatives on the inside of the compound. Should this man aproach you, be very cautious especially if there is anything yellow in his hands.   :D

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Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: John K on April 24, 2008, 12:44:47 pm
 :D :D Good luck everyone ! I'll be chasing turkeys around and looking for trees to cut down........no i don't have a problem  ::)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 24, 2008, 12:56:21 pm
Funny how the most dangerous are usually so mild mannered looking ;) ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on April 24, 2008, 02:28:58 pm
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Funny how the most dangerous are usually so mild mannered looking 
Not funny at all...that's the plan. Who would suspect such bowaholic inducing influence from such a "mild mannered looking" gentleman such as the unnamed? ???  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cowboy on April 24, 2008, 09:44:02 pm
Hehhehheh ;D ;D ;D...
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 24, 2008, 10:52:04 pm
 ;D :D  If you look deep into his eyes you'll see that there is a driving force behind them. >:D >:DThe pleasent "Good Ol Boy" look is part of the cover. Only those that have been bitten by ol yellar know what a hold it can have.  :'(
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on April 25, 2008, 08:45:00 am
I'm into withdrawls bad right now, haven't made a shaving, fletched a arra, hafted a point or even tasted sinew in a week.
Can't sleep in anticipation of heading south for Pappyland, I tried cutting some shafts yesterday and it helped some but
my thoughts keep returning to the adventure that is looming closer all the time. Got it bad :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on April 25, 2008, 09:27:19 am
I'm looking forward to it while at the same time realise it will probably take me a week to recover from it. :)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: TRACY on April 25, 2008, 09:51:05 am
Dr. Keenan, I have a big problem. I just found out that I'm not going to be able to attend the Classic in TN. What am I suppose to do with all of this anticipation? How does one fill a void of this magnitude?

Seriously depressed,
Tracy
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on April 25, 2008, 11:49:23 am
 Tracy, a let down on this scale is huge. First try to remain calm,,, There is help but requires immediate action. Call as many "friends" as you have in your local area and plan your own gathering. Though this seems like a cop-out it's really just a coping tool. You will have to organize, plan and help others with thier addiction but sometimes that can be very helpull and rewarding. this may not be the fix that your body is craving but small rewards can help.
 Word of caution;;;;; Teaching others can be as habit forming as indulging in your own fantacies.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: TRACY on April 25, 2008, 03:29:10 pm
Dr. Keenan , you just may have saved my life with your infinite words of wisdom. Thanks, I owe you one!
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on April 28, 2008, 03:00:14 pm
I've already started contributing to the bowmakin' delinquency of a senior...Hawk, 67 years young has learned the fine art of chasing an osage grain. He will probably begin tillering his bow today, and from the almost non-stop work on it he displayed yesterday I'm sure he is hooked!

His bow from the Classic last year, an outstanding hickory kept his ediction on a high through the year. He's gone to the hard stuff now with his introduction to making an osage bow. I'm sure he'll never be the same, and will from now on be a changed man traveling in the circles of other hardcore bowaholics. He did bring his wife with him...so maybe although he may not resurface to the rest of his family for months to come, at least he has his soul mate to support him through his "trip". ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: deerhunter97370 on April 30, 2008, 03:02:36 am
Keenan I was wondering how the details of the Central Oregon Bowaholics Classic where going. location, times, events, money for shared cost of anything, if theres camping stuff like that. Thanks Joel
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: gene roberts on May 01, 2008, 01:22:30 am
I ofet find myself looking out windows at school for a good hickory or something else to make a stave out of.I daydream about it.I often look right behind the shoulders of most animals I see( even squirrells).Is there any help  people please same me.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: gene roberts on May 01, 2008, 01:24:37 am
I also use metaphors involving tools of the trade of bows. HELP!!!!
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on May 01, 2008, 04:00:40 am
Joel, We are finalizing everything this week and should have more info for you soon. we are planning on getting there thursday afternoon. But most will show on friday night or Sat. morning. Were still trying to get things prepped out and this is our first so pulling everything together is a trial. We are asking any who have 3D targets to bring them, as well as bow biulding tools stands or benches. We're in the process of getting the porta johns lined out and it's sounding like there going to be a good showing of people.  ;)
  JJ is going over to the shoot O-suck shoot this weekend and will have flyers for everyone. We are planning on heading up there  on friday to get the mileage and map it out. :)
 
 Gene, "See the above"  We have theropy sessions comming up. However it only is our way of keeping ourself from over indulging by showing others what to do. Then as they get hooked we can laugh and somehow feel justified because we aren't aalone with our illness. ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: gene roberts on May 01, 2008, 09:38:35 pm
I....I...I'm not alone???  Yeah  I will be at the classic,right now this is Gene's son Zach.See You soon
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: deerhunter97370 on May 08, 2008, 04:54:18 am
I think my Bowaholism is getting worse. I took a friend up to Mary's Peak to find Vine Maple. There is tons of it at the base of the mountain. I think if I can get my friend to start on a bow he'll catch the bug to.  >:D Joel
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on May 08, 2008, 01:06:37 pm
  It appears that there is some serious addicts that have gone over the edge from the recent events down south in the Tenn, region. The impact was so huge that some in states as far away as Washington have been affected. ::)
  I recieved an email this morning from one of our contacts an he seems to have been comprimised and is trying to convince me that it's imparative that I start planning to attend next year. ;) It's also evident by the postings that many have gone completely wild and are still having serious "flash backs" and are striving to relive the recent event.  >:DI shudder to think of the contacts that have been made and the circle of influence may never be stopped at this point ;D
  It appears that the only hope for many of these that attended is to find local help to try to slowly come back to reallity and get ther feet back on the ground. ::). If you know someone in this situation it may be nessessary to orgainize a local event to get them through this difficult time of with drawl.  :D ;)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on May 08, 2008, 03:16:47 pm
Dr. Keenan, unfortunately I'm one of those many who are suffering from flashbacks from this event. I have spoke of nothing else at work since, and I'm sure all those around me have long ago tired of hearing about everything that went on and looking at pictures on PA. Not having experienced it themselves, I can not do justice when describing to them the longterm affects it seems to have had on me. All I want to do is make a bow with narrower tips then I've made in the past, look for cane to make arrows from, and eat some more collard greens! ;D Heck, I'm even thinking about breaking some rocks.

Hopefully I'll eventually come back to earth, and when I arrive maybe I'll still have a job since I haven't been able to keep my mind on it much for the last few days! ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on May 08, 2008, 03:24:25 pm
Greg there is hope for you! ;) You are a very brave person to be the first to come forward and talk about recovery openly. :o Your co-workers and family need to understand it's an illness that you have little control over. Hopefully they will give you the time that you need ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on May 08, 2008, 05:29:05 pm
My name is David Tiller and I'm a Bowaholic!

(Place Response here!)

It all began at birth for me. First sight was of the umbilical chord. All I could think was what a great bow string it would make!  ;D Then later in life it just got worse and worse. Now I cant seem to walk or drive down the street without looking at trees and trying to figure out how I can cut them down, in the middle of the night, and get away with them without getting caught!  :P  All I see are bows and arrows when I see wood, trees and saplings. I have even digressed in evolutionary patterns and now make stone points. HELP! What can I do. My brow ridge is growing, my knuckles are draging on the the sidewalk. Alcohol does not help, but just makes me ruin a good peice of wood. What to do!!!!

Sincerely;

Desperate for help! Or a good peice of Osage!!!  :D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on May 09, 2008, 12:04:14 pm
 David, I'm glad to see you coming to grips with your addiction. However I'm very concerned about your case becaus e it appears that there is more of a devided interest in your case. On one side I see the pull of the primitive ways and the draw of a simple existance that tugs at your heart. ;)
 However I see a definate gleem in your eyes in some of those pics when your are standing by the opposite sex. :o :o :o Opps did I say that out loud >:D  Though this usually causes division of intrest. It sometimes works when the addiction is mutual. Guess time will tell.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: gene roberts on May 12, 2008, 01:28:47 am
...THEN i MADE A BOW...SOB SOB....HELP ME  it is only worse...save me
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on May 16, 2008, 06:49:45 pm
Dear Doc
  We recently had a string of tornadoes in my county this means that there are huge trees everywhere on the ground free for the taking in some cases the owners will even pay me to haul them away I have a huge stash put in a safe place every one wants my wood but theyre not gonne get it.I have planned many bows one of each kind from each species. My wife is banging on the door of my work shop . She says that I have to go to work but I'll fall behind on my build schedule.What should I do? Is this indicitive of a problem? Hold on I have to pop the blisters on my hands. Please help.
Ronnie
The Cracker
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cowboy on May 16, 2008, 09:26:00 pm
The men in white suits and butterfly nets will be there shortly cracker :D. Stole that from Hillbilly - hahaha ;D..
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on May 16, 2008, 10:02:49 pm
To the Funny Farm! Where life is beautifull all the time! HEHE HA HA!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on May 17, 2008, 12:26:13 am
The men in white suits and butterfly nets will be there shortly cracker :D. Stole that from Hillbilly - hahaha ;D..
I'll take my hatchet maybe they have a small tree in the solarium. I can make a hatchet bow. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on May 17, 2008, 12:27:50 am
To the Funny Farm! Where life is beautifull all the time! HEHE HA HA!!!! ;D
Wonder if they teach flemish string making in rehab.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on July 07, 2008, 05:01:53 pm
 Cracker, Yes you have the disease,,, :o  It's also an advanced case due to the fact that it's affecting work,family and even the nieghbors. :D  In your case it might be best to check into an all out bowaholic event simmilar to the Tenn. classic. We have had some success with giving patients an overdose of bowerys poison, especially when given the pure gold stuff and sometimes the enchanted yew. Though the effects are short lived and the addict ends up craving more in the end, it is at least a temperarry fix. 
  I think you would quallify. Just pick an event close to you and let us know and we'll make sure you get hooked up. ;D
 
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: recurve shooter on July 07, 2008, 05:54:53 pm
dear doc.

 My grandpa is about to put up an electric fence around his shop to keep me out of it. every weekend i hole up in there with my precious red oak and white oak, just rasping, sanding, drawknifeing, bandsawing, and glueing away. im in the early stages of this adiction, yet i feel there is no hope. is there anything i can do to save my self form certian electricution?
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on July 07, 2008, 07:26:31 pm
Recurve, grab as much supplies as you can,,, while you can and find a new cave.  >:D >:D Opps sorry the was the craving talking.  Take him along for the journey and ask for some help trying to read the grain. This will help yu step back and pace yourself ::) and at the same time help him to understang the overwelming pull of the wood >:D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: recurve shooter on July 07, 2008, 08:00:05 pm
thank you keenan. i'll try it.  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: blacktail on July 07, 2008, 08:28:26 pm
this topic is out of control...i dont have a problem  >:D...i just used the last of my money for gas to go up into the woods to get some wood.now i dont know how i am getting to work this week  ???....what problems are you talking about...i have wood and life is o.k...lol,lol.. john    p.s. if you dont have bow wood that would be a problem   O:)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: recurve shooter on July 07, 2008, 08:52:38 pm
lol. bucktail, you got it bad, but i have to say i agree. wich is strange, but makes sence cuz i got the bug to.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: GregB on July 07, 2008, 09:45:46 pm
What's up Doc?  ;D Sorry, reverted back to my childhood for a second...is that a symptom? I'm afraid I might have a different strain of bowaholic syndrome...I haven't been working on bows that much lately, but instead have been accumulating vast amounts of river cane for arrow making. I'm straightening cane in my sleep, and day-dreaming of turkey feathers and sinew wrapping. Is this a new strain that may be incurable? Every shot I take with these arrows I'm envisioning a double-lung shot on a deer...is this normal?  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on July 07, 2008, 11:18:19 pm
I think I have the same thing! Its catchin!!!!! Arrowitis strikes again....
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on July 08, 2008, 12:48:29 am
 John; your definately hooked Bro; Seek imediate help

 Greg The symtoms of reverting back to your childhood are very serious, You could end up slipping back all the way and end up running through the woods in a loin cloth with a spear in your hands.  :o  The day dreams are also an indication that you have come very close to the point of total return. >:D The dillusion of the double lung deer is a fantasy. Though it's harmless for now, it will eventually not fullfill your desires and you will possibly carry out your fantasy in real life ;D

 Tiller There are many forms of the disease with multiple names. I've noticed that you seem to be trying it all lately as if searching for the best high. ::)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on July 08, 2008, 04:16:08 am
Man you guys have it bad, now me I'm completely normal and well adjusted and have accepted my fate ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Phillip K on July 08, 2008, 05:11:02 am
 Someone Told Me I had Forum Sickness.
This is the Biggest Art project Ive Taken on,I told My self last year that I was going to learn how to Make bows for one year instead of my regular Art and I found that Bowyering is less stressful than my Art. But The only thing I don't like about it is the reds tape and permit I had to get to test my Bows, Besides the Authorities Have Probably been Watching my Prodjects but thats Ok I'm NO Terrorist I'm a peace lovin Bow maker Artist that likes Archery, I don't Kill Animals unless I need to and other than that I like going to the Beach and Flight shoot Away from Peaple, I even had a nice conversation About it With A tourist on the Fourth of July they were real understanding.
what a peacful day that was.PK ;) This is better than a session with a psyco anylist ::) and another thing Ive Learned to appreciate the trees and the things that it takes to make Bows and Arrows without hurting the natural balance of Nature.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: deerhunter97370 on July 08, 2008, 12:10:54 pm
For some reason everytime I try to plan on going to a Bowmaking or archery event Something gets in the way like The TAO Banquete at Eagle Crest I had to work, The Central Oregon Gathering no car insurance, Gods Valley rained out, The Pope and Young Shoot in Bownsville at the end of this month my in-laws planed a camping trip the same weekend. Is it just a lot of bad luck that in getting shut out. Whats going on here. Joel
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on July 08, 2008, 04:54:07 pm
The natural highs are the BEST! Now I just need to widdle away the time at work.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on July 08, 2008, 07:18:41 pm
Cracker, Yes you have the disease,,, :o  It's also an advanced case due to the fact that it's affecting work,family and even the nieghbors. :D  In your case it might be best to check into an all out bowaholic event simmilar to the Tenn. classic. We have had some success with giving patients an overdose of bowerys poison, especially when given the pure gold stuff and sometimes the enchanted yew. Though the effects are short lived and the addict ends up craving more in the end, it is at least a temperarry fix. 
  I think you would quallify. Just pick an event close to you and let us know and we'll make sure you get hooked up. ;D
 
Dear Doc
As some of you may know I yes I went to the 11th classic I thought everything was going to be alright until a fellow in a felt hat half rim glasses overalls and brogan boots cought me by the arm and said come on and let me show you the hot box under the bench. Was this man a pusher?  he said you can look for free but if you touch its gonna cost you. Next thing I new I was in the county clink for possesion of stolen bow wood.Is this really such a bad thing?
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on July 08, 2008, 07:57:04 pm
Cracker! You crack me up!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on July 08, 2008, 09:13:01 pm
Cracker! You crack me up!!!  ;D
:) :) ;) :D ;D O:)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on July 09, 2008, 12:54:04 am
  Cracker ya got to be straight with me from now on. I didn't know you and already been consorting with the keepers of the gold stuff. :o  W ;De may have toi do some serious drastic measure to get you stable.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on July 09, 2008, 01:45:32 am
Forget it Keenan! I know em. He is definitely a lost cause.  He has a definate case of bows on the brain! ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on July 09, 2008, 05:09:27 pm
  Cracker ya got to be straight with me from now on. I didn't know you and already been consorting with the keepers of the gold stuff. :o  W ;De may have toi do some serious drastic measure to get you stable.
Well I finally got out of the clink the other day. While I was in there I got put in solitary confinement for making a bow out of rolled up newspaper and underwear alastic. All the other guys thought it was great we had a breakout planned but the warden cought us.
Cracker
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: recurve shooter on July 09, 2008, 11:07:16 pm
you spelled caught wrong.  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on July 10, 2008, 05:05:15 pm
you spelled caught wrong.  ;D
Maybe you need to do out and make some shavengs.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on March 12, 2009, 02:54:02 pm
Thought I would revive this thread seeing as how a bunch of us are going down to the great enablers farm in May for an orgy of
bow building, knapping and what not. I'm sure we will all need an intervention when we get home ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 12, 2009, 09:54:38 pm
Someone said if you deny that you are addicted then you are addicted and in denial.  What a bunch of poo.  I am not in denial and I can control this.  So what if I have a current list of 10 bows in various stages of completion, big deal.  I know lotsa guys that do more bows than that!  So what if I have to park my nice new 1987 Isuzu Trooper outside in the cold because my garage is now dedicated to toxophilic pursuits?!?!?!  Big deal if it gets in the way of my job and I break dates with hot chicks because I wanna stay home and scrape cambium off hackberry on a Saturday nite.  Women are over-rated anyway, right?

Wow, did I just say that?  Guys?  I am ok, right?  I'm not a bow-holic am I?
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: DanaM on March 13, 2009, 06:54:04 am
Ya sound normal to me JW ;) :)
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 27, 2009, 07:51:16 pm
thot so
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: Keenan on March 28, 2009, 12:09:47 am
  JW  Ten bows that are partly done can soon turn into 20 or 30. so to say "big deal is the start of denial. The trade off of the garage is another shift of priorities that is a tail tail sign of an addict.  The job and girlfriend is definitely a sign that you are nearing full blown intoxication and addiction. However I noticed that you didn't mention the dreams at this point so you are either in serious denial or just about to hit the dream stage ::) :-\  No matter what the case may be we do have extensive treatment programs available.  Check yourself in immediately to the twin oaks resort for your medication ;D  call me a few weeks after so we can assess your condition.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: D. Tiller on March 28, 2009, 04:43:57 pm
I don't know how it happened Dr. Keenan. But I am remiss in my addiction to bows. I just recently got introduced to kayak building and Greenland and Aluet paddle making. My bows are crying for my return but I am torn between the two addictions!!!!

Please help! What should I do!!!!  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

David T

Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: cracker on March 28, 2009, 05:20:57 pm
Dear Doc last year I went to the classic and 21 bows later the craving to build a flatbow has died down considerably however the other day I accidentally clicked on the warbow area and now I seem to have a craving to build a warbow. Does this mean its to late for me? PLEASE HELP.Cracker
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: billy bowmaker on May 06, 2011, 09:32:08 pm
i've got it so bad i even changed my last name to Bowmaker

this is a funny thread, but i'll wager every one of us who makes a lot of bows is OCD.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: JW_Halverson on May 08, 2011, 04:06:20 pm
WRONG!  It's CDO.   You gotta keep the letters in alphabetical order!
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support thread
Post by: HatchA on May 08, 2011, 04:30:00 pm
WRONG!  It's CDO.   You gotta keep the letters in alphabetical order!


Damn Straight!!  ;D
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: Thesquirrelslinger on March 26, 2013, 10:28:00 pm
Oh great... I started making stickbows of BL and now I ask my parents"can I work on this" can I work on that" to go to garage to work on my bows...
I am totally addicted. I sometimes even stay up till like 2 in morning on weekends to make arrows for a bow I just finished.
WHat should I do?
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 27, 2013, 09:39:17 pm
YOu are already doing it.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: rover brewer on July 29, 2013, 07:20:25 pm
my name is George and I am a bowaholic, have 4 finished two almost done can't seem to pass up a good deal on bow making wood , catch myself looking over every tree and thinking would that make a good bow.than any bow finished has to have arrows.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: Wylden Freeborne on August 02, 2013, 04:45:18 am
it all started as a way to connect with other folks and spend time learning a new craft. then, i met this pusher who showed me this new way to scrape shavings called a "stavemaster". now i find myself keeping secrets from my friends about where yew grows.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: Badger on October 27, 2013, 12:16:23 pm
   After about 16 years as a serious addict I can tell you we are a hopeless lot. Just as an alcoholic cannot keep booze in the house I cannot keep wood. I chew it up faster than I can buy it. The sad part is that your resistance to the drug grows with time and you need more and more to feed your fix. I retired early so I could stay home and make bows. I have ditched all my friends to the point they stopped comming around so I could make more bows. I converted my house into a shop. I just don't see an end in sight. The only break I can from making bows is comming on here and talking about making bows. I don't even post or share my bows anymore. The real sad part is I don't want help for my addiction, I just want more wood!!!
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: artcher1 on October 27, 2013, 02:17:14 pm
All you guys are a sad lot ;D! Ever hear of moving on to something else...........like arrow-making >:D ;D!

Steve's right of course, going to cost you some friends and family. In my case though, I only lost the ones I wanted to lose anyhow ;). If it weren't for this addiction I won't have the good friends I have today. So take heart, there can be a flip side to this addiction..........Art
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: 4dog on October 28, 2013, 12:01:13 pm
unfortunately...the flipside is hunting..with a bow you made..like the e-cig..you cant replace one addiction with more of the same.   :o
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: crooketarrow on April 28, 2016, 11:07:43 am
  It took a long time for me to see I needed help. When I met my other half WENDY I bow hunted a lot.  That's cool, Her mother said if all he dose is deer hunt he'll be fine. The first year I was away hunting 13 week in's. I hunted local through the week, traveled on the week in's, mostly out of state.  Another 6,8 week ins scouting. Then there's gobbler season. I can count on my hand's and toe's the days I've missed gobbler hunting through the years.Then I fly fished another 8,10 week in's.

  Building bows at night. That was 24 years ago 30 to 124 straight days buck hunting in 99. That's been ever year, nothing changed until  2 years ago. My RA turned serious EXSPECAILLY my left ankle.

  Now 100 yards I'm not moving the next day. Now I'm confind to my shop. That's scary the last month I've flaked 50 pounds of obsidian,  Some TEXAS chert, GEORGETOWN. From the late 80's to mid. 90's I was addicted to kapping more so than building bows. I've never quit building bows.

  So when my hands elbows will let me I'll be rasping. The RA

   I've been addicted to herion, pills, weed through the years. I've kicked them all but bow building. Whats wrong here.

 
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: crooketarrow on April 28, 2016, 11:13:37 am
 Sorry about that first pic. Should have been this one.

  Sorry also about the pic of tips.

  Osage snake bow I'm working on.
Title: Re: Bowaholics Support Thread
Post by: DC on April 28, 2016, 03:19:50 pm
I'm amazed that your RA is so bad that you can't walk well but your hands are still good enough to knapp. I have Psoriatic Arthritis(a distant cousin to RA, nowhere near as bad) and I can walk all day but if I tried to knapp something my hands would be toast for a few days. It's amazing how different people are affected differently. Good luck with it.