Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => At the Forge => Topic started by: KHalverson on June 18, 2019, 04:36:57 pm
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open to steel stone or bone knives,
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I’m down, I promise I’ll get it done faster this time around ;)
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I would be interested but I would have to use an Asbell knife blank if that's OK. I still haven't got my anvil set up yet and I have very little free time this summer.
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Dylan
no worries.
Clint
thatd be fine.
ill leave this up thru the weekend see if it drums up any more interest.
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I guess I could do it
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i'll do it
be my first one
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Maybe I'll get in with a bone knife. Don't do stone and not much with steel so I guess that would be my only option. ;D
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I’d like to get in on this too. Ed
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I'm in.
ETA: right handed
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I'd love to be involved! Are there any particular rules for the design?
I'm still new on these boards, so I would have to ask folks to trust that I'll actually do it.
-Patrick
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I'l play again this year. :OK
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I'd love to be involved! Are there any particular rules for the design?
I'm still new on these boards, so I would have to ask folks to trust that I'll actually do it.
This board is all about trust , if you want in I think it's fine. No parameters but any hunting blade is generally acceptable
-Patrick
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I'd love to be involved! Are there any particular rules for the design?
I'm still new on these boards, so I would have to ask folks to trust that I'll actually do it.
This board is all about trust , if you want in I think it's fine. No parameters but any hunting blade is generally acceptable
-Patrick
Bubby is correct.
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does an august 15 ship date sound reasonable?
if so I will take all the I'm ins and draw names on Sunday 6/30/19.
Kevin
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Sounds good to me Kevin. :OK
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Sounds good. I should have mine done by then. Ed
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Sounds OK to me. :OK
And BTW, I am right handed.
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Sure, sounds good
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Is a sheath expected, too? I'm not bad at leather, but that's not exactly my favorite part.
I'll have it done before August.
-Patrick
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Sounds good to me too
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Is a sheath expected, too? I'm not bad at leather, but that's not exactly my favorite part.
I'll have it done before August.
-Patrick
Don't know if I speak on behalf of anyone else, but do what you feel most comfortable with. When you get your name you can also search their past posts and interests to make a judgement call. Some of the guys here are amazing leather craftsmen, and I could see how it may feel a little intimidating. Likewise, some may be weaker in that area, so if you want them to carry and use your blade they might need the sheath.
Personally, if I get one of the bone or stone knives it will most likely go in my framed collection on the wall so a shesth wouldn't be necessary as a tool holder, except as part of the display.
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Is a sheath expected, too? I'm not bad at leather, but that's not exactly my favorite part.
I'll have it done before August.
-Patrick
not required.
but Dieselcheese does present a good point.
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Fair enough. In that case, whoever I get should probably tell me if he's right handed or lefty.
I'm all eager anticipation. I love trades and I love knives, so this is about perfect for me this month.
Thanks to all who have answered my first-trader questions. I appreciate it.
-Patrick
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Fair enough. In that case, whoever I get should probably tell me if he's right handed or lefty.
I'm all eager anticipation. I love trades and I love knives, so this is about perfect for me this month.
Thanks to all who have answered my first-trader questions. I appreciate it.
-Patrick
Just make an ambidextrous crossdraw sheath, easy peasy
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Regarding the "which handedness" question. Just add it to your entry post above.
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If its not too late l I'd like.to get in on this!
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Well, Bubby, that's one option, but not one I've done before. I don't really like doing something for the first time as a gift or trade. It means I'm planning to give something other than representative work. I may end up doing something like that, but it will depend partly on who I draw for a recipient.
This is going to be fun.
-Patrick
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Here's a simple saddle sheath, works either side
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here are how the names came from the hat.
how this works is your recipient is the name under yours .
so #1 sends to #2 and so forth down the list.
bottom name sends to #1.
please contact your person for any info needed.
lets have some fun guys.
1. 1442
2. mr woolery
3. Dieselcheese
4. ssgt chad
5.Dylan Holderman
6. KHalverson
7. PatB
8. Osage Outlaw
9. PaulN/KS
10. Bubby
11. Ed Brooks
feel free to post up works in progress.
Kevin
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I've got my blade formed and hafted to the handle but I'd like to get a little farther along before I post any pics. :OK
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ohh I never saw this! well theres always next year!
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I'm a lefty just so you know. A sheath isn't nessesary but if you are inclined
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I'm a lefty just so you know. A sheath isn't nessesary but if you are inclined
I was going to ask but now I know. :OK
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I'll be watching everyone. (-P. I would've joined in but just to busy this year. Maybe next year. I just don't feel like I can spend enough time to do this right now.
Bjrogg
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a little progress pic for patb.
(http://i.imgur.com/p9BElyR.jpg) (https://imgur.com/p9BElyR)
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Oooooo! 8)
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Part of what's going to Osage Outlaw.
(https://i.imgur.com/CVmp5M3.jpg)
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Cholla!
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Si!
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Beautiful knives both Eric and Pat. I like both the handles to.
Bjrogg
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Well, since y'all are sharing teaser pictures of in-progress work, here's mine!
-Patrick
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Well, since y'all are sharing teaser pictures of in-progress work, here's mine!
-Patrick
nice.
5160 coil spring??
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Kevin, will all knives be shipped Aug. 15 or can we ship earlier?
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KHalverson, you nailed it in one.
Patrick
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Here's the start, all forged, bevels forged, now for the hard part...making it look good
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Looking good already
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Well I got a couple started , rough forged the blade and bevels. Everything was a bear last nite but after some grinding I got them roughed out decent, one needs some straightening
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Kevin, will all knives be shipped Aug. 15 or can we ship earlier?
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pat.
ship when your ready.
aug 15 is the target to have this wrapped up.
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keep those pics coming .
I really like seeing peoples progress.
bubby those look comfy.
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Thanks kevin
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I'm sure enjoying looking at the progress pics.
I'm doing a stock removal process blade, and tried this piece that had some ancient flake removals off of one side.
It seems a little soft in the lighter colored areas though so I will most likely set this one aside and try another piece of stock or two or three before I decide which one to send.
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That is a beautiful blade! I love the swirl of lighter color in it. Stone blades are so pretty and you make such nice ones.
Patrick
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I wish I had that skill!
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Updated progress. Bevels ground profile done, blade is flattish lol next step drill holes for the pins.
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got to the forge today and got some rough work done.
(https://i.imgur.com/MYh7sld.jpg)
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I have one ready for normalization and heat treat, got the other straightened and cooling down, I will probably get both ready before HT
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Lots of good looking stuff here guys. I can't wait to see all the finished knives. :OK
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I got my butt in gear today😁
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I'm basically finished with my knife for Clint.
I started with one of those big beef dog bones sold at Wal Mart and other places. I sawed the knuckles off of each end(my dogs loved that) and boiled the mid section for about 30 to 45 minutes then removed the marrow and any tissue on the outside. I then split it in half lengthwise and use the best half for the bone dagger blade. The handle is a piece of Cholla that Jon(JEB) sent me a while back. I wanted to fill the holed in the cholla so I stuffed the center of the cholla with cotton first then used JB Weld as the filler and for hafting the blade. I also sinew wrapped the handle at the blade and added a cow horn but cap.
I shaped the blade first on the belt sander then use rasps and files then smoothed it with emery cloth and and 0000 steel wool. The cholla handle was initially sealed with super glue then Tru-Oil with a rub down with 0000 steel wool between applications. I still want to give it a few more coats then it's off to it's new home. The sheath I made from brain tanned scraps that NCLonghunter(Lyman) sent me a while back.
Here are a few pics. Hope you like it Clint.
(https://i.imgur.com/sRO2zHW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SOXzFJh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XvdDssf.jpg)
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Wow, you guys all have some beautiful knives going here. I wish I had gotten in. Really enjoying watching though.
Bjrogg
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Failure! Snapped the tip off like a cracker I forged it too thin.
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next progress pic for pat.
(http://i.imgur.com/Xh8Tk82.jpg) (https://imgur.com/Xh8Tk82)
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I think those clothespins are going to get in the way ;) ;)
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I think those clothespins are going to get in the way ;) ;)
thats redneck fringe!!
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Kevin, you just taught me something new. :OK
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Clothes pins are handy and so are those metal spring clips.
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next progress picture for pat.
(http://i.imgur.com/DYwcRRS.jpg) (https://imgur.com/DYwcRRS)
thanks
Kevin
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:OK I'll let you know when it gets here, Kevin.
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Got those blades heat treated and tempered. Messed around and made a hook , need practice🙄
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Ground, heat treated, and cleaned up, 1095 @ 59-60 HRC
(https://i.imgur.com/omHJgFv.jpg)
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looks good.
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The bone knife I made for Clint went out today, expected delivery day is Saturday(7/13).
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Looks like some nice blades in the works
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bubby, your inbox is full.
I'm finishing up the sheath and will need your address.
Paul
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It's got room now. My address is
Paul Robertson
1040 Otis Ct
Red Bluff, CA.
96080
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Got it.
Thanks. :OK
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the other day at work i got the scale ripped off and the rough profiling done, hopefully tonight i'll start grinding.
(https://i.imgur.com/XOYngx3.jpg)
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So I used my Telsa time machine (Bill and Ted model) and went back to talk with Chief Looking Glass. He really likes tacos, keep that in mind if you pay hjm a visit. Anyway, he said he'd just wrap the handle in duct tape and be done with it. He's very practical thst way. So I thanked him for his time and left himsome tacos and a roll of duct tape.
Very stylish I think:
(https://i.imgur.com/Yw59XJr.jpg)
Ok who am I fooling? Instead I'll clean up these ugly scalea i just epoxied together. Five bonus points to whomever can guess both flavors of wood.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zunt4FA.jpg)
I'd blame the above post on the fumes in my shop, except I have no shop and it's raining in my outdoor work space right now.
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Christmas came early today. I received a knife and sheath from Kevin today. A perfect combination of beauty and function. (f)
Thank you Kevin. This knife won't be just a show piece I promise. :OK
Here are a few pics, two with flash and two with natural light...
(https://i.imgur.com/rifuJSI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/82ju2qj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LSKiTjX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6znuhGX.jpg)
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diesel.
looks good.
bacote, leather spacer and snake wood?
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Update on my progress:
Dieselcheese, if you don't want a friction folder, I'll keep this for myself and send you a puukko that I forged on the same day. Honestly, I couldn't say whether the picture of the hot steel was this blade or the puukko, as they were from the same forging session. But I like this one better.
Here is the trial-fitting of the pieces. I'm using maple for the handle because it is a very stable wood that I know and trust. Not as fancy to look at as some, but I love it for its utilitarian value. Once the handle finish cures, I will work on peening the pins. It may be ready to go as early as Wednesday.
-Patrick
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diesel.
looks good.
bacote, leather spacer and snake wood?
Really close on the snakewood.
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Update on my progress:
Dieselcheese, if you don't want a friction folder, I'll keep this for myself and send you a puukko that I forged on the same day. Honestly, I couldn't say whether the picture of the hot steel was this blade or the puukko, as they were from the same forging session. But I like this one better.
Here is the trial-fitting of the pieces. I'm using maple for the handle because it is a very stable wood that I know and trust. Not as fancy to look at as some, but I love it for its utilitarian value. Once the handle finish cures, I will work on peening the pins. It may be ready to go as early as Wednesday.
-Patrick
Really cool, Patrick, looking good. I could go either way honestly, it's like trying to pick out which puppy you like more from a litter.
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Well, if you have no preference, I will send the folder. It is the knife I intended to send you anyway.
Patrick
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I will have to PM for an address. Here's the finished knife. It is ready earlier than anticipated. I really like this one. I hope you do, too, Dieselcheese.
-Patrick
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And closed.
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Mr Woolery.
that folder is very nice.
its something that is on my list to do but I haven't gotten the guts to yet.
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Give it a try! Worst that happens is you throw it away. No matter what, you come out with more knowledge.
I probably destroy 5% of my blades in deliberate destructive testing. Making a new sort of knife is really only another form of testing. The end goal is knowing exactly how a knife will perform because you test your blades. Here, it is more like testing your assembly process.
The tricky bits are placing the stop pin and peening the pivot pin. Stop pin has to be in the right place, pivot has to be secure enough to keep the blade from wobbling but not tight enough to make it a permanent fixed blade.
And you don’t have to make a sheath!
Patrick
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Progress pic.
(https://i.imgur.com/vu2H0CB.jpg)
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Lacewood? What's the other wood? Gonna be a stunner!
-Patrick
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Lacewood? What's the other wood? Gonna be a stunner!
-Patrick
Yeah, stabilized lacewood and stabilized oak...supposed to be spalted oak but not seeing any spalting myself, but I do like the contrast.
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Got my knife from PaulN/ks, very nice kephart style blade and sheath. Blade from a power hacksaw blade and walnut scales. Will make a fine camp knife, thanks Paul😁
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bubby.
that's a very nice looking knife.
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bubby.
that's a very nice looking knife.
It is Kevin
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Glad you like it bubby. I hope it serves you well.
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Here are the knives that Pat B sent me. The cholla handle is awesome. I need to use that on a project sometime. The neck knife is the perfect size. Thanks Pat!
(https://i.imgur.com/zoESjVB.jpg)
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I think Dylan made the blade for the small knife and I added the handle scales and made the neck sheath.
You're welcome, Clint. Hope you enjoy them. :OK
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The hard work is done, need to do a final edge polish and stitch together a sheath. I'll break out the good camera and do a couple of completions pics at that time. The cell camera really screws with things, the liner material is more of a terracotta color but looks almost bright red through a phone camera.
(https://i.imgur.com/uptVz0V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QsKis5q.jpg)
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Cheese, that is a handsome knife and the handle is exceptional. Well done. :OK 8)
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got some more work done on my knife, i think that i'll use the bowie unless something go's wrong with it.
(https://i.imgur.com/yXBVqYq.jpg)
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Diesel.
that's a good looking knife.
Dylan
that's gonna be a cool knife,
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Nice work diesel!
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Here's my effort. It will be going out Monday. 3 inch blade from a coil spring, full tang with a distal taper. Osage scales charred, dipped in linseed oil the hand rubbed with bees wax. And the sheath veg tan stained with min wax, hand sewn with 2 strands of fast flight.
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Nice knife Chad. I like the burnt scales.
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Mine is completed. Wanted ti try something different with the sheath. Still trying to get used to the new camera so the white balance isn't quite right.
Final specs:
1095 @ 59-60 HRC
blade length 4.5" with a 4" cutting edge
3/16" thick
Handle is stabilized oak and lacewood, 2 solid brass pins and center corby rivet
(https://i.imgur.com/LFzES6Y.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oxwl1CZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jvec2Z9.jpg)
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Wow! Just wow!
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Got the friction folder today. Mr Woolery did a great job! The pictures he posted just don't do it justice. Light weight but a very solid feel to it. Opening and closing has just the right amount of friction, and well balanced in the hand.
Good job, sir!
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Did I miss pics of a friction folder?
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Bubby, see page 6 of this conversation. Down near the bottom of the page.
Glad you got it and like it, Dieselcheese!
-Patrick
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Saw it now, nice work. I've made a few and you were spot on, those pins are the key I make a cardboard template to figure mine out
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I been out of commission for a while but I am back now.
I did some more stock reduction on a couple blades last night and it sure was nice to sit and knap for a while. Plan is to make a few blades then pick the one that will work the best and put a handle on it and all.
I felt out of practice but they didn't break so I was happy.
This blade was made from a bifaced rock from the New Mexico desert
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This one was a Pedernales amebo.
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Both are nice but I really love the color of the second one.
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https://photos.app.goo.gl/9uzngFwxqJrGwLAx6
Click the video it's the handle with one coat of teak oil
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Click the link then the video
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1442- those blades are truly beautiful. I am so excited to see which one you end up choosing. Of the three you showed on this topic, I could not pick one as preferable to the others. They are all just fabulous.
-Patrick
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Bubby - that handle is gorgeous!
I love that this exchange is giving people the reason to make something just to enjoy making it. I know I was happy to do a knife that I didn't feel like I had to make to a pattern with the hope of finding a customer. I made what I felt like making, knowing that what each of us was going to trade would be an example of our own aesthetic.
I think I'll just consider myself part of every future kith, as long as folks will still have me. It was fun to make the knife, it is inspirational to see what everyone else is making, and I love the low stress of it.
-Patrick
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Bubby
that handle is sweet.
Mr Woolery.
glad you enjoyed the kith.
its supposed to be fun and low pressure.
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Thanks Patrick and Kevin. Wish I knew what the wood is, I bought an old burl clock for three bucks for the wood. I cut the best parts into bowl blanks for my son to turn. The wood has a sweet smell when working it
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It was a good day Thursday, I received my knife from dieselcheese! That man sure knows what he doing awsume job sir! And thank you.
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Nice
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got more work done on my knife, working on the handle now.
(https://i.imgur.com/TuB1Qp0.jpg)
also got my knife from ssgtchad on thursday and today i put it through its paces carving a crude atlatl from a broken mulberry limb.
once all was said and done it only needed a quick touch on a fine stone to take hair off my arm again.
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Blade is looking good Dylan
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I gathered some raw material supplies and tinkered with a piece of antler for a handle today.
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Here is my offering, hope Ed likes it. It's from a file hammered out the bevels and rough shape, mystery wood scales from a burl clock and a regular belt sheath I made , finish is bees wax and mineral oil
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bubby
that is a very nice package.
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Thanks Kevin
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Nice work, bubby. (f) :OK
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Looks Great. That burl wood, whatever it is, has some nice figure.
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Thanks guys
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I glued a blade in a handle and inset a small arrowhead made of citronell into the end of the handle.
Still got to smooth out the glue lines around the arrowhead and wrap the haft with sinew, then make some sort of holder and maybe a sheath of some sort.
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Very cool knife, 1442. :OK
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Stone blades are just so beautiful and you make them so well, 1442. The antler handle is going to make that into one fabulous knife.
-Patrick
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Some really nice knives everyone.
Bjrogg
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Some really nice knives everyone.
Bjrogg
Boy, that's an understatement ;D ;D ;D
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I finished the knife and made a stand for it out of a couple deer antlers, then put it all in a box.
I looked how far it would be to just drive up there and deliver it myself. It was 4083 miles and 80 something hours driving one way. ??? I think I will just mail it. :)
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Wow!
I'm not sure what to say except thank you! My wife is right next to me and her words were "that's gorgeous." I couldn't say it better.
If you ever do make the trip up, come in the first half of June. And we can fire up the forge together!
If I ever come down there, I'm going to ask if you will be around so you can maybe show me something about knapping stone. Seriously, I'd set aside a couple of days just for that and I'll bring the refreshments, even.
-Patrick
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That is a Beauty. :OK
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Really nice work, 1442. :OK
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Bubby that knife looks awesome. Ed
I’m getting close to getting mine done. Ed
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Thanks y'all, I had fun doing this trade. I managed to get it mailed today. Supposed to be there Monday.
Gotta git busy on the arrow trade now.
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today I went and got yesterdays mail and found a wonderful knife made by Ed Brooks from a narrow chipper blade and a leather sheath.
Ed, I really like it. I sharpened it and it seems like very good steel and took a razor sharp edge.
Can't wait to use it on something. Thanks
P.S. I really like the file work on it.
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Thank you 1442, For the kind words, I Hope it does you well. Ed
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I got my knife from 1442 today. It is even better in person than in the pictures he posted above. I love it.
-Patrick
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I got an awesome knife from Bubby today, I missed the post office yesterday, and it made for a long day today. Thank you Bubby. See the pics, Bubby post here on the KITH page. Thanks again. Ed
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Welcome Ed , hope ya can use it
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alright so looks like i'm last to finish again and late again :-\
i really struggled to feel satisfied with this piece aesthetically.
it started out with a blued guard and a bright blade, but i couldn't bring myself to be happy with how it looked so i ended up oil blackening the guard and darkening the blade with vinegar.
still have some niggling issues i cant quite put my finger on, but i've reached that point that i need to call it done or i'll screw it up completely.
more pics once i finish a sheath for it.
(https://i.imgur.com/X4ZwUgb.jpg)
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I’ve been creeping around on this thread for awhile now. I’m liking what I’m seeing. Especially in terms of how well the communication is. way to go fellas. Great blades all around, I know I would be proud to own any one of them.
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finally got this done. just needs a final sharpening, i should have it out by Tuesday.
sheath is carved out of poplar turned a bit of brass for the button and secured it with glue and a bit of sinew.
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That's a nice set up, Dylan. :OK
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that looks really nice.
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how do you do wood sheaths?
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Get two thin boards(or one board thick enough to saw in two)trace your blade profile on both, mark depth and carve the half’s out and glue together then shape however you like
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Thanks!