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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Black Moshannon on November 06, 2019, 10:50:13 am

Title: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Black Moshannon on November 06, 2019, 10:50:13 am
Does anyone know when this DVD from Keith Shannon, Billy Berger, and Thad Beckum is going to be released? I am highly skeptical but am going to buy it out of curiosity and at least for the entertainment value. 
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Deerhunter21 on November 06, 2019, 12:03:52 pm
no idea. i think they dont have a date yet.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: PatM on November 06, 2019, 12:11:04 pm
 What made you think this would be the place to join up and ask?
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Black Moshannon on November 06, 2019, 12:57:19 pm
Mostly because of the long thread on this topic here already. Seemed like someone might have an idea when it’s going to be out.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Eric Garza on November 06, 2019, 04:23:16 pm
I emailed Billy Berger about it a few days ago, as I assume it will be sold through his website. I have not heard back yet. I am also skeptical but interested. If it is $20 or less, I will probably buy it.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Black Moshannon on November 06, 2019, 07:00:53 pm
Ok. Yes I would be willing to pay up to $25 or so but otherwise will wait to hear the reviews. Who knows maybe it will blow everyone away.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: GlisGlis on November 07, 2019, 03:25:17 am
please add a review here:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,65435.0.html
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Hamish on November 07, 2019, 04:22:36 pm
Certainly a nice bit of marketing, with their video trailer. Fibreglass performance with a white wood bow. From what I have seen it includes highly reflexed designs and heat treating on the belly. That definitely helps performance, but we have known about these processes for a long time.
Is there a revolutionary process previously undiscovered by modern bowyers? Who knows, but I would still buy it just out of curiousity.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Traxx on November 07, 2019, 10:35:52 pm
I read somewhere,where they claim,it is a different process than heat treating,,but we shall see...
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Eric Garza on November 08, 2019, 10:10:04 am
I heard back from Billy Berger earlier today. He said they are working hard to get the DVD ready to release by December 1.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Deerhunter21 on November 08, 2019, 11:44:31 am
ok, I cant get it so i hope to be hearing from you guys.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Black Moshannon on November 08, 2019, 01:38:38 pm
Good news, I’ll be getting it for Christmas then.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: bownarra on November 09, 2019, 01:56:58 am
Great me too. I'm really looking forward to watching it and then making my own mind up.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Hawkdancer on November 09, 2019, 11:00:54 am
I'm with Deerhunter - waiting for the reviews and critiques!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: bassman on November 09, 2019, 01:00:02 pm
Badger, Mark St Louis, and sleek , and many more have made some really high performance bows on this forum.My mind tells me if their bows  are any faster it would be marginal at best no matter how they heat treat them. The difference between vintage recurves, and new  high tech super recurves all else being equal is about 20 fps, and that is using carbon for limbs, ILF risers of lam wood or metal, FF strings. I will use my money for another spool of FF string which has been one of the biggest innovations to come along in a long time when you are talking bow performance.JMO
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Hamish on November 09, 2019, 04:10:17 pm
Bassman, I'd have to agree. Still I enjoy a good detailed video on bowmaking. I usually pick up some interesting technique or idea that I can positively apply to my own work. Heck I just enjoy another person perspective on bowmaking.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Marc St Louis on November 10, 2019, 07:23:24 am
Naturally I won't be buying one but I do encourage anyone with an interest, and the spare capital  :), to do so.
Title: Re: Fire Dancer Bows DVD
Post by: Black Moshannon on November 10, 2019, 09:01:43 am
I don’t believe there will be any “revolutionary” information, but more likely a dramatized showcasing of techniques that others have already come up with. This is just my impression from watching the trailers and reading the website. I will certainly buy the dvd and write a review here. I haven’t heat treated a bow yet but my next red elm D bow will be treated over coals. It will be a normal treating of the belly only after floor tillering. From what I understood in the YouTube comments under Thads video and the website, the whole stave would be treated and no tillering done before heat treating. Doesn’t seem as if this would be an improvement unless heat treating the back magically made the bow better.