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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Outbackbob48 on November 19, 2019, 10:53:23 am

Title: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 19, 2019, 10:53:23 am
First off I know most places illegal. Yesterday set up a figure 4 in my enclosed shed, first nite bait was stolen. :o Talked to my mentor and he told me it was easier catch a bear than a mouse, ??? I needed a very light trigger pull to getter done, very difficult to set up. Need more hands, anyway made some adjustments and my second day trap check was a collapsed deadfall and when I lifted my weight there laid a very flat deer mouse ;D Next I wonder how they taste ???  Wonder how many pelts to make a nice coat, hope I got a big enough stretcher. Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: BrianS on November 19, 2019, 12:48:10 pm
Bob,
Good job with the figure 4. I could have used you earlier in the fall at the cabin. I ended up using a 5 gal bucket baited with sunflower seeds floating atop water with a ramp leading up to the rim. I have them under control now but that first cold snap they were a nuisance. In comparison to the weight you used for the mouse, how heavy of a weight would be needed for a bear I wonder?
Brian
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Hawkdancer on November 19, 2019, 12:56:45 pm
Nice kill!  Probably need about 1,000 to make a coat, though!  Don't know how much meat they have!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: mullet on November 19, 2019, 01:10:01 pm
 ;D (lol) (lol)
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 19, 2019, 01:51:56 pm
Brian, I was told to use 2 to 3 times the weight of animal you are trying to catch, 20# coon 60# of weight? I need to get a whole lot more experience before I can give many opinions. Your repeater trap is a good one for mice, I might be all winter cleaning out the shed of mice. Light light trigger not easy. Bob

Dang second pic needs rotation rt.  Easier to trap mice than work computers UGH.
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: AndrewS on November 19, 2019, 04:24:52 pm
May be, you can get more infos here (mousetrap museum): http://www.neroth.de/index.php/mausefallenmuseum.html
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Pappy on November 19, 2019, 05:00:39 pm
Nice job Bob. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: GlisGlis on November 20, 2019, 06:43:22 am
maybe with payute deadfall you can achieve a lighter trigger easier to setup
I still have to test this one  ;D
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,56954.msg781932.html#msg781932
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 20, 2019, 07:33:56 am
Glis, caught another one today, think I have the lightness figured out. Your link trap is a beautiful carving pc, don't take this wrong but the intent of the figure 4 is the simplicity 3 sticks and a weight and could made with a sharp edged rock. no string, no tools just plain primitive and still effective. Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: GlisGlis on November 20, 2019, 10:49:32 am
absolutly nothing wrong with fig 4
I love the convinience of essetiality
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Hawkdancer on November 20, 2019, 11:39:31 am
998 to go for your coat! (lol) (lol)
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: YosemiteBen on November 20, 2019, 01:28:42 pm
check out shawn woods on youtube. he does a lot of interesting traps.
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: bjrogg on November 20, 2019, 01:47:57 pm
That's pretty cool Bob.
Probably tastes like chicken.lol
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 21, 2019, 05:09:21 pm
Caught another one today, 3 days in a row. Wonder how many live in that old shed, no food just shelter, Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: bjrogg on November 24, 2019, 06:12:17 am
My one old Hunting blind will have an average of about 8 every time I come to it. No food other than what they gather and store. Lots of fuzzy nesting materials they gather. Many times babies right in the middle of winter.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 24, 2019, 08:01:39 am
Bj, I am up to 5  and the nest make an excellent tinder bundle when using just a coal for fire starting. Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: WhistlingBadger on November 24, 2019, 07:48:50 pm
Good kill!  We do love doing things the hard way around here, don't we!  ha ha

I bet you have a little girl in your life who would love a doll-sized fur hat...

T
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: bjrogg on November 27, 2019, 04:54:03 pm
Get em all yet Bob?
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Outbackbob48 on November 27, 2019, 05:19:39 pm
BJ, I've got 7 so far, Had a sprung trap this afternoon but not sure if maybe wind blowing thru shed set it off, Set pretty light so don't slam the door or shake the floor :( Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: BrianS on November 27, 2019, 05:32:02 pm
Bob,
This year there seems to be quite a few mice down at the cabin. I have declared war on them and have put out a pile of traps. I hate mices to pieces! Also have a resident owl and some fox and coyotes (seen on my trail cameras) doing there best to help me control them. Not sure why there are so many this year?
Take care,
Brian
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: bjrogg on November 27, 2019, 06:25:48 pm
BJ, I've got 7 so far, Had a sprung trap this afternoon but not sure if maybe wind blowing thru shed set it off, Set pretty light so don't slam the door or shake the floor :( Bob

Yes it's really windy here to. Lots of rain. Snow is all gone for now. You must have that trigger set just right. A bear should be easy. ;)
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Hawkdancer on November 27, 2019, 11:36:58 pm
993 to go ! (lol) (lol) >:D. Might try that bucket trick!  Quicker!  Got to reset the trap line in the garage!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: GlisGlis on December 09, 2019, 02:54:27 am
how's the coat going? Show us the pelts  )P(
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: Outbackbob48 on December 09, 2019, 07:25:44 am
Gliz, I am up to 9 deer mice and yesterday I had a short tailed shrew.  (A) Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: bjrogg on December 09, 2019, 01:28:25 pm
Ew wee. Might be able to use him for trim
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls
Post by: DC on December 09, 2019, 01:44:48 pm
Gliz, I am up to 9 deer mice and yesterday I had a short tailed shrew.  (A) Bob
And in that time about 500 new mice have been born. You ain't going to win this one Bob ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update) with pics
Post by: Outbackbob48 on March 19, 2020, 03:13:50 pm
Deadfall update, 14 deer mice 1 shrew 1 flying squirrel 1 chipmunk. Sure beats hoarding TP. Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update) with pics
Post by: WhistlingBadger on March 19, 2020, 07:54:57 pm
Sure beats hoarding TP.

Well, I guess you could use the mice to blow your nose, and the squirrels for...um, nevermind.
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: bjrogg on March 19, 2020, 08:53:28 pm
You seem to have that figure 4 trigger figured out Bob.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: GlisGlis on March 20, 2020, 04:12:11 am
I'd try to make something out of the chipmunk. maybe a small pouch
keep us posted on your success
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: GlisGlis on March 25, 2020, 01:05:25 pm
made a emoticon expressly for you!     (http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=59874.0;attach=152599;image)
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: Outbackbob48 on March 25, 2020, 01:47:23 pm
GlisGlis, all I can say is Wow and what a nice gift, made my day. Thanks Bob
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: BowEd on March 25, 2020, 04:50:57 pm
Pretty cool Bob.Best dependable mouse trap I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: WhistlingBadger on March 25, 2020, 10:14:32 pm
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That is probably the funniest emoji I've ever seen.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Figure 4 Deadfalls (update)
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 25, 2020, 10:40:26 pm
That is worth a devil of a laugh or maybe 5 each! >:D >:D >:D  >:D >:D (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol) (lol)!!!!!
Got to get him onto the lineup!
Hawkdancer