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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: sleek on November 29, 2019, 08:51:25 pm

Title: coyotes and deer
Post by: sleek on November 29, 2019, 08:51:25 pm
Had those dern dogs beat me to my doe. What's the fastest yall ever seen yotes tear up a deer?
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Hawkdancer on November 29, 2019, 10:49:04 pm
How long did it take for you to find her?  She may have run right through the pack! :-D
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: sleek on November 29, 2019, 11:24:49 pm
How long did it take for you to find her?  She may have run right through the pack! :-D
Hawkdancer

She was destroyed in the 30 minutes  it took to find her. She looked  butchered.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Piddler on November 30, 2019, 06:55:59 pm
45 minutes for me.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: sleek on November 30, 2019, 08:01:38 pm
45 minutes for me.

How tore up was it in 45 min?
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Piddler on December 01, 2019, 06:38:21 pm
The hind quarters were both damaged (not completely eaten) to the point that I would not eat it, so pretty bad. They started at the soft in between the hind quarters as you can guess. One front shoulder was also damaged pretty bad. It was close to where the arrow went through and they started there. Other front shoulder was good because they didn't have time. Doesn't take a pack long to do serious damage.
Lost a buck a few years ago. Found it the next morning, nothing left but bones and horns.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: sleek on December 01, 2019, 07:35:18 pm
This us all that was left in 30 minutes. Must have been quite a few of them on her
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 01, 2019, 09:44:49 pm
Wow, that's awful.  Where are you, Sleek?  We have coyotes around here but they aren't that bold or that dense.  You know, a good coyote fur is worth some coin, they're a lot of fun to hunt, and I doubt anyone would blame you for having  a bit of a vendetta...
T

Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: sleek on December 01, 2019, 09:51:41 pm
Wow, that's awful.  Where are you, Sleek?  We have coyotes around here but they aren't that bold or that dense.  You know, a good coyote fur is worth some coin, they're a lot of fun to hunt, and I doubt anyone would blame you for having  a bit of a vendetta...
T

I'm in north eastern Oklahoma. When sunsets, they light up the air like stars in the sky. To the point that I get nervous walking back after dark, and keep my pistol on me. I'd be interested in learning about yote skins and how to sell them. I'd take no issue with laying them out at this point.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 01, 2019, 10:07:24 pm
I'm not an avid dog hunter, but I have friends who are.  Last winter a good western coyote skin would bring in around $70-80.  I've heard that eastern and southern coyotes are worth a lot less (not sure why) but ten bucks is ten bucks, right?  The guys I know that hunt have a fur dealer they sell them to locally.  Not sure if he's a local or somebody that comes through.  I bet if you asked around at sporting goods stores, tanneries, and such you could find someone to take the skins off your hands.  Some people even say they're good to eat, but personally I've never been hungry enough to try.

I have nothing against coyotes myself--I rather admire them actually--but they are pretty fun to hunt, and too much of a good thing is a bad thing.  Sounds like your area needs some predator control.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 01, 2019, 11:03:43 pm
Not sure, but I. Think I read the fur is "frost proof" like wolf fur, on a prime pelt.  That might explain the price difference.  A good hide should make a nice quiver!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Pappy on December 02, 2019, 05:42:38 am
I have had them get on one in 30 minutes in the day time but usually not, now at night it is a hit or miss here, anytime you leave one over night you take a chance of them getting on them, I guess they got to eat also but it is aggravating for sure.  :) Buzzards are about as bad around here. >:(
 Pappy
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: burtonridr on December 02, 2019, 03:36:51 pm
With how picked clean it appears to be, I would wonder if it is a different deer than the one you shot. To go from living/ dying animal to that in 30min (with a human scent around), would be mind blowing.

If you want to sell coyote pelts, check out NAFA. They have a few auctions every year, they usually have someone that will pickup furs a few times per year. They are reputable, and you will get more than a local tanner or taxidermist will give you. Usually they will act as a middleman and buy from you, then take it and have it sent to the NAFA auction.

You can lookup there most recent auction prices, looks like eastern coyotes are averaging about $61, and about 95% of them sold. This was from their May auction.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: TimBo on December 02, 2019, 04:00:09 pm
Wow...I would have wondered if that was the same deer also.  I shot a buck during gun season a week ago right before dark, found it, started field dressing, realized I forgot my bone saw in the car, ran back (probably half a mile or so), couldn't find the deer again for a couple of minutes...anyway, just as I found it again, a pack of coyotes started yipping a bit too excitedly pretty close to me in the dark.  Good thing I hadn't just looked at that photo!  I don't worry too much about them eating a human, but it does cross your mind in some situations.  I didn't bring the rifle back with me, so I would have needed to fight them off with the saw, a small skinning knife, and a good attitude.  Sorry you lost that one.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Piddler on December 02, 2019, 06:07:12 pm
Sleek,
Mine was shot right at dark. Looks like yours was late evening as well. All I can say is these Okie coyotes we have can do some damage fast.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: sleek on December 02, 2019, 07:00:00 pm
Tim, I could not believe it either. But the odds of her being 40 yards away, in the direction I saw her running, freshly gelled up blood around her, fresh guts pulled out, no hair slippage, and all her meat was still pink, with no odor, and when I picked up and dropped her head, she had fresh wet blood splatter out and drip from her nostril. it's hard to say it wasnt her, though my mind is still trying to comprehend it. Her neck hadn't even gotten stiff  and her eyes were still fresh looking. So, either it was coyotes or something worse. But that was a fresh kill.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: TimBo on December 02, 2019, 10:10:52 pm
"something worse"...brrrr!  Sounds like a good campfire story.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Chief RID on December 03, 2019, 07:55:28 am
Our yotes can't help but sound off at a kill. And you should have heard the commotion that would be involved being close to the kill site. Very strange.
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Deerhunter21 on December 03, 2019, 08:10:40 am
was turkey hunting for the first time about a year ago with my friends dad and her. saw nothing but we saw a big tom in his tree roosting right before dark. I didnt want to shoot it because thats kinda like its safe place. we heard a pack of yotes running around us. me and my friend had done this before and we acted all scared and her dad told us a cool story to "calm us down." and thats how i get cool stories out of my friends dad!  O:) O:)

I wonder what they were on the trail of?
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: DC on December 03, 2019, 10:59:43 am
Chupacabra ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: Outbackbob48 on December 03, 2019, 11:32:58 am
NAFA, is no longer, They went bankrupt or a candian equvilant, lots of trappers have received bounced checks from last sale, I lucked out and didn't have any furs there, We needed NAFA, they sold a lot of furs and tried to do a lot of promotion, I believe they got to heavily invested in the ranch mink market that has crashed. Bob
Title: Re: coyotes and deer
Post by: burtonridr on December 03, 2019, 12:40:29 pm
NAFA, is no longer, They went bankrupt or a candian equvilant, lots of trappers have received bounced checks from last sale, I lucked out and didn't have any furs there, We needed NAFA, they sold a lot of furs and tried to do a lot of promotion, I believe they got to heavily invested in the ranch mink market that has crashed. Bob

Aw crap! What a bummer. Thanks for the heads up, I hope they manage to come out of bankruptcy somehow, we need an organization like them.