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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 10:52:31 am

Title: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 10:52:31 am
Anyone ever use vegetable oil for a finish? I'm trying to finish up a Christmas gift bow and I'm out of tung and mineral oil. Money's a little tight right now so I'm trying to avoid buying anything. My main concern with veggie oil os it turning rancid and making the bow stink.

I have some spray-on satin finish poly, but I'd really prefer an oil finish on this bow.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 10:54:51 am
I also have some candles I could melt down for wax, bit they're pink. Anyone know a way to distill liquid wax to get the dye out of it?
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: hoosierf on December 01, 2019, 11:05:04 am
Car wax, olive oil, motor oil, gear oil, gun oil, shoe paste, mink oil.  I’ve used just about every kind of oil you can imagine. I think veggie oil liquid might be too light to give much protection but I bet crisco would be okay.  Wax last after all of the oil soaks in.   I also seem to recall veggie oil liquid being very sticky.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: bobnewboy on December 01, 2019, 11:09:36 am
I’ve had some good results with walnut oil that is sold for eating / over salads in supermarkets here in the UK. Fairly cheap and goes a long way, but it does need some UV to set it properly - it polymerises in sunlight which is why there’s a warning on most bottles to store it somewhere dark :).

The best results seem to follow fine sanding with a fine grit paper, and applying the oil as hot as you can use it. I heat it up in a ceramic mug in the microwave. A couple of teaspoons full are pretty hot in 90 seconds or so.  Beware though - don’t heat it in a plastic container as the oil can really get very very hot and destroy the container!

Cheers, Bob
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: Mesophilic on December 01, 2019, 11:13:49 am
If you're looking for a more lasting finish, some food grade oils will actually polymerize with exposure to oxygen, similar to tung.   Flax (linseed) seed oil would be my first choice followed by walnut oil.  Regular vegetable oils will instead go rancid with time and oxygen. I'd use a homemade paste wax before regular vegetable oil or crisco.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: PatM on December 01, 2019, 11:29:27 am
Oils  are drying or non drying.  You want an oil that dries.

 There's any number of oils you can  readily get your hands on for very little money.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: Pat B on December 01, 2019, 11:31:56 am
You'd be better off with the spray poly.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: GlisGlis on December 01, 2019, 11:39:27 am
boiled lineseed oil with a 20% turpentine and maybe 5% vinegar
turpentine for a deeper absorption
vinegar for preservation against mold
best if you make many thin layers because a heavy coat will make lumps and will dry very slowly
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 12:04:17 pm
What about mineral oil or baby oil?
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: bradsmith2010 on December 01, 2019, 12:09:37 pm
it will work if you wax over it after it soaks in,,
it will be ok,, just not the most protection, but it will bring out color of the wood,,,,
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: SLIMBOB on December 01, 2019, 12:12:46 pm
What about a good burnishing?  A few of my oldest bows have no finish on them other than that.  I wont hunt in the rain with them, but other than that, no problem.  I have done crisco and other cooking oils.  Doesn't last and too hard to clean up when you do put a finish on them.  That's what I have seen. 
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 12:15:20 pm
I just found an anciently old can of tung buried in a box in my shop. It's pretty much a dried lump in the bottom of the can, but I heated the can and it seems to be re liquifying. Is it usable it I "melt" it back to liquid?
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: bradsmith2010 on December 01, 2019, 12:33:32 pm
I dont have experience with that, but if you get some liquid it should work,, wont hurt to try,, u could always sand it off if not what you want,,
the burnishing is a good idea too,,
just the cheapest spray krylon,, would look ok, its just not very durable,, like used for art work,,
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 12:49:36 pm
On the upside the bow shoots great, 42#@28" but feels very light and smooth in the draw. Decent speed and shot two shafts-touching 🎯 bullseyes out of its 1st 6 arrows at 10 yards.

Just need to get a finish on it and maybe shoot it it a little more before I give it to dad for Christmas.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: PatM on December 01, 2019, 01:25:46 pm
What about mineral oil or baby oil?

Mineral oil doesn't dry.  Baby oil is just mineral oil, usually with scent applied.

  Some people still use it but most prefer a finish that doesn't feel oily.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: IrishJay on December 01, 2019, 01:41:18 pm
Probably just going to go ahead with the spray poly. I'd hate to ruin such a nice bow by using a questionable finish on it.
Title: Re: Veggie oil for finish.
Post by: Black Moshannon on December 01, 2019, 02:01:00 pm
I rub lard into mine. Its cheap and really water resistant. I put on several coats at first, then every so often over the years.