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Title: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 13, 2019, 04:55:03 pm
If I don't screw up, this one might turn out ok. First pass each side. Tried to space my flakes out a bit to have some ridges for second pass.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 13, 2019, 05:21:18 pm
Second pass. It's still in one piece.
It already drew a pretty good amount of blood.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 13, 2019, 05:45:26 pm
Third pass still ok.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 13, 2019, 06:06:02 pm
I think that'll work
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 13, 2019, 10:23:58 pm
Wow.  Knapping is a skill that has always baffled me.  I've only seen it done once, and it looked like magic to me.  That knife looks like it could skin an elk, no problem.  Nice work!
T
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 13, 2019, 11:11:59 pm
Nice work, BJ!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: JEB on December 14, 2019, 05:01:57 am
Looks good Brian. Now  get that on the end of a cholla handle.
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 06:03:35 am
Wow.  Knapping is a skill that has always baffled me.  I've only seen it done once, and it looked like magic to me.  That knife looks like it could skin an elk, no problem.  Nice work!
T

Thanks WB. It still baffles me at times to. I'm really not that good at it, but I pretend. Sometimes it works and sometimes it I have two small points.

Your right it is magic.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 06:04:47 am
Thanks Jerry
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 06:12:48 am
Looks good Brian. Now  get that on the end of a cholla handle.
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How did you know that was my next step Jon? ;) Thanks so much for everything. Hope you have a nice Christmas.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Outbackbob48 on December 14, 2019, 09:01:17 am
Oh Ya, Lookin  good, Bob
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 11:39:14 am
Thanks Bob. Really enjoyed this one. I'll try to keep posting as I put a handle on.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: RickB on December 14, 2019, 12:46:07 pm
You did a great job on that knife. Thanks for sharing the process.
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Post by: Trapper Rob on December 14, 2019, 01:41:53 pm
That's going to look really nice
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 02:09:40 pm
Thanks Rick. Believe me, I was half expecting to be posting a broken blade. Glad it kinda worked. I got a bit side tracked now. Went out to my secret cedar patch in search of my snoopy Christmas Tree. It's a tradition that goes back to about 1984.

I'll try to make finishing this one and posting the progress a priority.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 02:20:06 pm
Here's my Christmas Tree. Some assembly required. It's more like arranging flowers than putting up a tree. Sometimes the Scrooge in me wishes I just had a artificial tree.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 08:40:22 pm
Assembly complete and lights on. Now everyone else can put decorations on.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 08:56:36 pm
I glued a piece of Black Walnut and English Walnut together for the button and clamped it in vice overnight.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 08:59:32 pm
Then I cut a grove in handle for tang and tapered end of handle. It fits nice with handle lined up straight with blade. That's all for tonight.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 14, 2019, 09:02:57 pm
It's not glued yet. Just a dry fit. Hopefully tomorrow I can glue button on, shape it and finish halvting blade.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 14, 2019, 09:21:51 pm
That is really cool.  :)
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 15, 2019, 01:05:43 am
Very nice!  Re: the tree - Ho! Ho! Thwarp!  If I put it up I got to take it down! 
I like the knife!  Good job!  Have to send you a bit of elk antler to see what fits!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 15, 2019, 02:46:58 pm
There got my grandkids tree done now to. Starting to get in the spirit.

First thing I did was mark button for end cap on cholla handle. Then cut it out on band saw. Leaving the line. Then I mixeda little JB weld and applied it to end of cholla handle. Then put bottom on. I want the English Walnut to the outside. I think it's going to have some interesting grain.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 15, 2019, 02:55:30 pm
After the jb weld cured awhile I shaped button on my floppy wheel sanding wheel. Taking my time to avoid leaving burn marks. Then I hand sanded it a bit. Normally I would even file it to a shape that fit my hand and the shape of the blade but this one already looks and feels good. After I sanded I hit it with some OO steel wool. Then I gave it a coat of tru oil. I'll give it a few more before  halvting blade.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 15, 2019, 04:03:02 pm
Nice!
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 16, 2019, 06:09:17 pm
I gave the handle three coats of tru oil with a 00 steel wool buff between. I then used JB weld and put it on the groves I cut in cholla. Then slid blade in place. I just used a small amount of JB weld first. I've used pine pitch but I've had problems with leaving inside parked vehicle in the sun. Now I at least put a dab of epoxy. I can put pitch over top if I want. This one I just let first dab set. Then mixed another dab and filled in any places I wanted to.

Then I stuck it in my corny picture and here it is.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 16, 2019, 09:29:45 pm
Looks real good!  Hope my cholla does as well!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Stoner on December 17, 2019, 04:20:39 am
Way to go Brian, thanks for sharing. I the words of Tony the Tiger, Looks Greeeaaaat!. John
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: JEB on December 17, 2019, 06:01:21 am
I have to say that is the nicest cup of corn I have ever seen, lol


OK, OK, You did that rock and cactus justice.
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Parnell on December 17, 2019, 07:51:02 am
Very fine, BJ!  These many years into flintknapping and I still stink at doing that type of flake over grind work.  I've seen guys at knappins make it look like a 5 year old can do it, too!  Ha.  Nice knife nice tree.
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 17, 2019, 10:18:06 am
Way to go Brian, thanks for sharing. I the words of Tony the Tiger, Looks Greeeaaaat!. John

Thanks John. Maybe Tony will like my corn flakes.lol
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 17, 2019, 10:21:04 am
I have to say that is the nicest cup of corn I have ever seen, lol


OK, OK, You did that rock and cactus justice.


Thanks Jon. It was some very nice materials to work with. Really enjoyed this one every step of the way

Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 17, 2019, 10:24:10 am
Very fine, BJ!  These many years into flintknapping and I still stink at doing that type of flake over grind work.  I've seen guys at knappins make it look like a 5 year old can do it, too!  Ha.  Nice knife nice tree.

Thanks Steve. I'm still a long ways from as good as you or those others. I get by. But it is amazing to watch people who really know what they are doing.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 17, 2019, 10:28:59 am
I got busy at other things that just always seem to pop up and get in the way. I'm hoping to make a stand soon and I'll try to add it to this post. Might take a bit for some inspiration. Might even have to do a little Beach combing

Thanks everyone for the kind words and looking
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: JEB on December 18, 2019, 07:14:23 am
Oh Oh, I see some drift wood coming. Land locked folks may not know what that is.
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: mullet on December 18, 2019, 08:17:17 am
Fantastic job with that one, Brian. You've come a long way chipping.
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2019, 10:47:51 am
Thanks Eddie. I really still have a lot to learn. This knapping really has a way of keeping me humble.lol

Yup Jon, you guessed right. I'm still putting stuff together, but it might be this combination. I've got a couple pieces of driftwood I received compliments from the big lake. Thinking about using this one.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2019, 10:49:12 am
Maybe mount it somewhere around here
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2019, 10:50:36 am
Maybe use these antlers somehow
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 19, 2019, 12:41:34 pm
Could you fix the antlers into the driftwood?
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2019, 01:12:57 pm
Could you fix the antlers into the driftwood?

Yes WB. That's my vision. If I use this combination. I'll cut them to fit where I want them and hold knife how I'd like it displayed. Then probably clear epoxy to fasten them to driftwood.

I'm still not sure I like this driftwood. I'd like to seal it with something, but everything I try turns it so much darker.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2019, 01:53:32 pm
I put one coat of linseed oil on for now. I'll probably buff it and put several more on.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 19, 2019, 01:56:09 pm
Then I cut my antlers and dry fit them. This is my vision. I kinda like it now.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 19, 2019, 08:03:03 pm
Nice.   :OK
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Post by: Deerhunter21 on December 19, 2019, 08:04:20 pm
Best stump of wood ive ever seen! good job bj!!!  ;) ;)
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Stoner on December 21, 2019, 06:22:57 pm
Brian, I like the idea of the wood base and antlers. But to me the driftwood base is too large and takes away from the knife. Maybe a smaller piece of wood. .... Just my two cents, but who am I. Just an old stoner.  John
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 21, 2019, 07:56:29 pm
I know what your say Stoner. I was thinking that before I tried it. It's a pretty good sized knife and I think it'll be ok. If it doesn't I'll make something else.

Bjrogg

PS anyone ever use linseed oil? Does it dry hard?
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: Stoner on December 22, 2019, 07:29:27 am
Linsseed oil soaks in, I find tung oil as a better alternative.  I've used tung oil as a wet sanding application and creates its own filler for a smooth glass finish. John
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 22, 2019, 07:47:27 am
The linseed oil did really soak in. I've never tried it before. My brother was cleaning out his house and this can was left from the previous owners. I'm thinking it's pretty old but I don't think it was ever opened and seems to be good yet.

I'm thinking Frank from American Pickers might like this one. Nice colors and good subject matter. To bad for him cause I'm keeping the can.

Bjrogg

Ps I like the looks but I'm wondering if it will just draw dust or if it will harden. Also wondering if my epoxy will stick to it.
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: backtowood B2W on December 22, 2019, 08:28:30 am
if you haven't drilled the holes for the antlers, it shouldn't be a problem to get bond. Cannot imagine listed oil can penetrate that much.
Very nice work Brian. Cannot wait to see it all together!
Ah, yes and the tree is a great idea too, have a big thuja tree in my garden, and I will copy this next year. Have it already bought >:( and hidden.
In my opinion such a waste every year...
Title: Re: First pass.
Post by: bjrogg on December 22, 2019, 09:14:58 am
Thanks B2W. It really soaked up a bunch of this stuff. I'm guessing about 6 ounces in the two coats. If I warm it up with my heat gun it seems to draw it back out of the wood.

Bjrogg

Almost forgot about my Christmas tree addition to this post. Glad you liked it.
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 22, 2019, 02:25:06 pm
Well I think I'm pretty close to done here. I might do a little more finish work yet but I'm pretty happy.

Stoner I totally understand your concern with the size and taking away from the knife. I shared it but I gotta say this is my favorite knife and stand I've ever made. The pictures really don't do it justice. It is almost more of a center piece though it just looks cool from every angle.

I really enjoyed doing this thread sure glad I didn't screw it up. Thanks everyone for looking
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 22, 2019, 02:31:59 pm
Try again
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 22, 2019, 02:38:46 pm
Last pass
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 22, 2019, 04:21:48 pm
That is real nice!  Good display of two types of art!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 22, 2019, 08:18:27 pm
Thanks Jerry. I think the two pieces of art go very well together to.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: Stoner on December 22, 2019, 09:15:34 pm
Looks great, beautiful display of craftsmanship right there.

I have one of those linseed oil cans from my fathers work bench back in Michigan. Just like the looks of it on a shelf with the rest of my archery stuff. John
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 23, 2019, 07:04:26 am
Thanks Stoner. I usually make a knife and stand up for our Christmas gift exchange. I showed this one to my dad and step mom last night. They've both been watching the whole process. My step mom said I couldn't give this one for our gift exchange. She said it was to nice. Now I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it. It'd sure look great in some fancy hunting lodge. I've got a few ideas.
Bjrogg

PS my 5 year old grandson was just fascinated with the knife. I told him he had to be very careful with it that it could break just like glass. He very carefully looked at it from every direction. Amazing cause he's pretty rough with most everything. He is a young artist though. He's a natural. I love looking at his drawings and crafts
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 24, 2019, 03:28:42 pm
Wow, wow, wow.  Beautiful work.   (A)
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: RickB on December 24, 2019, 03:46:12 pm
Nice gnarly display. I like how the entire process went.
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 25, 2019, 06:38:29 am
Thanks WB glad you like it
Thanks RickB. I enjoyed the entire process. Glad it worked out. I've tried doing build alongs before but always forget to take pictures or guff something up.

I normally don't name my knives. This one seems to have a common theme that people see in it's stand. I showed it to my buddy Randy yesterday and he really liked it. He was sitting there watching me work on another project and he says. I'm not trying to put it down in anyway or take anything away from it, but sitting here it just looks so cool. It kinda looks like a petrified Buffalo turd.lol I did literally have to laugh out loud. I've been told it looks like a petrified woolly mammoths foot and a hippopotamus.
I think I am going to name this one. I'll affectionately call it "Buffalo Chip"

Bjrogg

Thanks for looking everyone and as my buddy Randy says. It looks so cool, but like something you wouldn't want to step in.
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: WhistlingBadger on December 25, 2019, 04:35:55 pm
Thanks for looking everyone and as my buddy Randy says. It looks so cool, but like something you wouldn't want to step in.

Well, quite apart from any resemblance to fossilized bovine excrement, I do as a rule avoid stepping on obsidian blades...
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: Pat B on December 25, 2019, 05:49:57 pm
That's a beautiful set, BJ.  8)
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: bjrogg on December 26, 2019, 11:40:44 am
Thanks Pat
WB so maybe the Obsidian blade acts like a deterrent to keep anyone from stepping in the Buffalo Chip
Bjrogg
Title: Re: First pass. To Last Pass. Pg 4
Post by: backtowood B2W on January 06, 2020, 10:00:22 am
looks so cool - love the whole set!
hopeully I can find some of this cactus in Mexico this summer... 8)