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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Lehtis on January 21, 2020, 08:15:26 am

Title: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on January 21, 2020, 08:15:26 am
Last winter I glued some laminated staves in my old workshop for future use. Three of them I made to bows immediately to some archery fellows. A couple of weeks ago while shooting in Finnish National Championships a glassfiber longbow shooter expressed his wish to get more traditional bow to try. I promised to help him in this. A minut later he updated his wish to takedown (carriage bow) to ease (air) travels. Last weekend ended to this result for him: A Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB. Stained with mahogany wood wax before several layers of TruOil. Nocks and arrow strike plate from water buffalo horn and black leather on handle. Dacron string to meet IFAA rules.
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on January 21, 2020, 08:16:24 am
Some more...
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: HH~ on January 21, 2020, 08:17:25 am
Love these bows. I know they shoot well. Keep them coming!

HH~
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on January 21, 2020, 08:18:22 am
... and more ...
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: HH~ on January 21, 2020, 04:55:49 pm
They really shoot ggod and speedy as well.

HH~
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: silent sniper on January 21, 2020, 06:42:16 pm
That's a beauty! Great job
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Post by: bjrogg on January 21, 2020, 06:49:33 pm
Very nice indeed.
Bjrogg
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Post by: WhistlingBadger on January 21, 2020, 08:30:07 pm
Beautiful.
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Post by: Weylin on January 22, 2020, 08:16:02 pm
Great looking bow! those take down sleeves are a lot of work.
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: turmoiler on January 22, 2020, 09:02:22 pm
Very nice bow, nice combo, just one question: where can you get take down sleeves in Europe?
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on January 23, 2020, 12:13:48 am
I think I bought them from The Longbow Shop or Flybow (can be found by Google). Not very cheap. I have tried to find metal tubes with proper diameters from some plumber and metal work shops to make my own but w/o success...
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: HH~ on January 23, 2020, 05:45:21 am
I am going to assume you build the bow, then cut it where you want, then fit the sleeve. Correct?

HH~
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: PatM on January 23, 2020, 05:55:47 am
Most people add them to pre-cut billets.  The glass /carbon type is likely used more often for a bow which is then cut in two.
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Del the cat on January 23, 2020, 07:32:53 am
Nice work :)
Del
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Marc St Louis on January 23, 2020, 07:58:03 am
Very nice.

Not to be picky but with the stiff handle this would not fall under the ELB description
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on January 24, 2020, 08:28:14 am
Hedgehunter: Iīve done these bows in both ways; a couple from bows already in use and a couple from billets.

Marc: Agreed. TD with metal sleeves propably doesnīt meet modern ELB definition but this configuration (carriage bows) has been in use in England before 1900 and therefore meets IFAA criteria for Historic Bow Class. Perhaps we should call these ELB Stylish bows... and my bows in many cases donīt meet ELBīs width-to-depth-ratio (too flat)... but the spirit is there... Also the purists propably donīt want to see grassfiber (bamboo) as ELB backing either.
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: backtowood B2W on January 27, 2020, 12:55:50 am
Like it!
Have two t/d sleeves and I try to see as much t/d before I give it another try.
Would love to see a pic where the arrow passes!
Guess the new owner will be very happy!
Thanks for sharing!
B2W
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on January 27, 2020, 09:21:34 am
Looks like he’s happy and the bow shoots well.
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Post by: Selfbowman on January 27, 2020, 09:28:57 am
Nicely done! Arvin
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Post by: Stoner on March 08, 2020, 09:53:33 am
Well done, Big Congrats on BOM. John
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: maitus on March 12, 2020, 03:20:16 pm
Terve Lehtis :)!
I got inspiration from this bow and will try to make something similar. What do You think about bamboo/cumaru/juniper combination? I have no lemonwood. Where did You get lemonwood from?
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: Lehtis on March 14, 2020, 02:56:12 pm
Hei, maitus!
I bought lemonwood from Exotic Hardwoods, United Kingdom (England).
I have no personal experience about juniper yet. One stave from Finnish forest waiting for conversion to selfbow some day. I think juniper could work OK if you don’t chase too high poundage.
Title: Re: Bamboo-Cumaru-Lemonwood Carriage ELB
Post by: maitus on March 15, 2020, 12:48:12 am
Ok, thank You! I will try :).