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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Tracker0721 on February 15, 2020, 01:28:57 pm

Title: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: Tracker0721 on February 15, 2020, 01:28:57 pm
I need a quiver and I’ve got a couple ideas but I’m kinda leaning towards a birch bark quiver. We have paper birch somewhere around here and water birch everywhere which I think is close enough for my purpose correct? Do I need a backing inside the quiver for structural support? Can I cut a hole near the bottom to be like a side quiver, like a safari tuff style, or should I just keep it top draw? And lastly my sister has a lot of sheep’s wool from her Jakobs- trash bags full- and should I use that inside or get a coyote to tan and stuff inside to quiet the rattle. And lastly, what’s a good width dimension for like 8 arrows?
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: chamookman on February 16, 2020, 02:22:00 am
I made a Birch Bark Back Quiver a long time ago. Used a Leather Punch to make the holes  to do the lacing with Raw Hide. Your Wool will work nicely  to quiet the Arrows. Good Luck - Bob  :OK.
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: AndrewS on February 16, 2020, 08:16:09 am
for structural support you can double the birch bark....or make a lacing with birchbark or cherrybark at the egdes...
I have heard about that processing the bark with hot water makes the bark like leather, but I have no experience...
years ago (may be 10 or more)I have seen outstanding birch bark quiver on paleo planet from "hartung", but haven`t found it yet.

examples for quivers:
https://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=6258.0

http://www.primitivearcher.com/articles/birchbarkquiver



Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: GlisGlis on February 18, 2020, 11:47:20 am
maybe it's not the kind of quiver you are looking for but i'd love to make a Schnidejoch replica
https://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,64209.msg902743.html#msg902743
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: AndrewS on October 13, 2021, 06:00:38 pm
a little bit late, but I have found some pics of  birch bark quivers..
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: White Falcon on October 13, 2021, 06:01:30 pm
Great ideas.
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: Muleman on October 17, 2021, 10:59:50 am
we don't have birch around here but have tons of aspen,would that work for work in its place?
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: Don W on October 17, 2021, 11:50:56 am
I've been hunting with this one this season. I love it. I have never made one with bark, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. I've made a couple from leather, canvas and a Hill style back quiver, but this will be my hunting quiver.

https://www.diy.timetestedtools.net/leather-side-quiver/
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: Pat B on October 17, 2021, 12:14:33 pm
I don't know if aspen bark will work but bark that is similar to birch bark, like choke cherry or some other cherries should work fine. Their bark comes off horizontally lending itself for containers without being too thick.
Also, unless you have already harvested the bark you'll probably have to wait til spring to get it.
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: AndrewS on October 17, 2021, 03:18:57 pm
I have made quivers out of cherrybark, birchbark and elmbark. Aspen I haven't tried.
Not many types of bark after drying have the properties that they become / remain leathery or somewhat flexible.
Birch or cherry are used by a wide variety of cultures for containers / vessels, because they are very water resistant.  In elm bark, it is the cambium that becomes very leathery - but elm bark is not very water resistant (see Ainu quivers made from elm bark with a cherry bark wrapping).
I haven't tried poplar or aspen, though poplar was traditionally used for large wooden bowls (light wood, easy to work with, and relatively water resistant - but that's for the wood, not the bark).


P.S. I know some guys, who have made some side - and back quivers from poplar bark. They harvested the bark in spring and let it dry around a small tube.


Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: AndrewS on October 19, 2021, 06:32:55 am
a good video: https://youtu.be/6ycRybq64Ws   

also from tulip poplar: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3hdamC5z5kM
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: WhistlingBadger on October 19, 2021, 02:17:48 pm
we don't have birch around here but have tons of aspen,would that work for work in its place?

I'd guess aspen would be a bit brittle.  Cherry could work.  But check around; you might have birch somewhere around.  Here in Wyoming we have a species of birch called black birch or river birch that has great bark for this sort of thing.  It only grows along stream banks, and it is much smaller than paper birch, so you'd have to sew pieces together, but I think it would make a great quiver.
Title: Re: Birch bark quiver thoughts
Post by: GlisGlis on October 20, 2021, 06:02:47 am
you could use spruce bark and spruce roots for the lacing