Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Marc St Louis on March 15, 2020, 08:04:40 am
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This is another bow I started several years ago that did not get finished. I started this bow at a time when there was a heated debate here on length of bow versus draw weight. One member, no longer, insisted that shorter bows could not be tillered to a heavy draw weight. Nothing I could say to Adam could convince him that you did not need a 6' long bow for 100#, or more, draw weight. At the time I had started this bow with the intention of making a heavier draw weight bow, heavier as in around 75#. During the debate I considered cutting this bow down to 60", it was 68" long, and making 100+ lbs bow to show him it could be done but then I thought "why bother". If he was not experienced enough to know better then it wasn't my problem. In the end Steve (Badger) decided to show him it could be done using Osage, of course Adam merely praised the Osage for being able to accomplish this
Anyway, on to the bow. I pulled the bow down from one of my racks a few weeks ago and worked it down a bit before starting, I don't and cannot comfortably use a 75# bow anymore, and re-did the heat-treating. The bow started out with just under 5 3/4" of reflex and ended up with just under 3" remaining. It had a bit of a kink in one limb, from the remains of a knot, which I partially took out with localized steam heat. The bow is 64" N to N and I tillered it to pull 57# @ 29". I made a linen string for the bow and have been shooting it quite a bit in my shop, too much snow outside. It shoots quite well. Here is the bow
(https://i.imgur.com/FV3QcQ3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/W1x2Ppz.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/69v0Yo2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/af10xqc.jpg)
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I don't get tired of seeing your bows Marc. Thanks for posting. This bow looks great in all respects and the fact that it hold 3 inches of reflex says a lot about this bow. I bet it is a pleasure to shoot.
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Another nice bow, Marc. Well done. :OK
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sweet :)
Del
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Sure glad you still have some unfinished bows hanging around to finish up Marc. Always enjoy looking at your full draws.
Bjrogg
PS and unbraced & braced
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Beautiful as always, great looking bow Marc!
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Jeez that’s a beaut. You are the damn master of heat treating white woods and the reflex game. I need to build a reflex caul and get off my butt lol
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Always a pleasure, Marc. I’m always intrigued with your style of arrow pass/shelf and also your string work. The bow is not bad either! Ha.
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Thanks guys
The string works out to about 400# so it should be good for awhile
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Very nice! Super tiller! Jawge
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That's so nice thanks for sharing (f)
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That's beautiful. I really like the reflex profile and yours are always top notch.
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Love the profile, but it's still too heavy. :) Thanks for the share... :OK
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Very nice work Marc.Sweet lines on that bow.I was wondering what's the average amount of time yet you let a bow rehydrate after heat treating?
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your bows allways have that grace and elegance... never get tired of seeing your work :OK
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Very nice work Marc.Sweet lines on that bow.I was wondering what's the average amount of time yet you let a bow rehydrate after heat treating?
No idea what the average would be but I let them sit for at least 24 hours before I start working on them
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You know you are doing everything right when you can take a piece of HHB and make it stand straight like that at 64" ntn. Good work, Marc.
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Good job Marc. :D
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Nice! At 400#, the sorting should hold up! With 2 reworked shoulders and hands, I am also in the "easy draw weight" group, not that age doesn't play a part, too!
Hawkdancer
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Very nice work Marc.Sweet lines on that bow.I was wondering what's the average amount of time yet you let a bow rehydrate after heat treating?
No idea what the average would be but I let them sit for at least 24 hours before I start working on them
Thanks....Taking in for granted this heat treating is done with most success with woods that are overly tension strong on their own,by saying an average I meant nowadays for yourself.In the past I thought it was longer.Knowing that it's the outside surfaces doing all or most of the work I suppose at least a couple days would be ok to wait.Factors of how strong a heat treatment or dark must be taken into account also.
I know in stiff areas of a bow like the tips just a couple of hours can be ok.
I'm superstitious though.I just did one on the full length of both limbs.I'm going to wait at least a week yet.
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Very elegant bow with some serious stage presence. Cambium streaks look really nice with the yellow handle. Impressive keeping so much reflex despite the tricky knot limb. Nice one, I really like hhb
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The time I wait does depend on the RH. If it's really dry I might wait a couple days
I lightly brushed the back with a small brass wire brush and water to take the cambium off. Worked well
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That is a Great looking bow! I love the unbraced profile and your tillering is always spot on. Thanks for posting this.
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Nice bow, got to love HHB. :)
Pappy
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Thanks guys