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Title: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 07:25:13 am
Hello! Thank you all for letting me be a part of this forum!

I tried to build a bow for my brother this past Christmas and got it almost to where he wanted it but it broke. I am a total noob and didn’t pay attention to the grain of the red oak board I got from HD.

Anyway, it’s a new year and I am at home with a back injury and thought it would be nice to start on a new bow. My brother and I cut 5 straightish Crepe Myrtles and we are wondering how long to let them dry? I will post pics of a couple of the staves that I stripped yesterday!

Thank you!

Kenly
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on April 06, 2020, 07:32:16 am
Well..that's a tricky question,.and can vary depending on results desired..from quick survival bow...to well cured stave bow,.up to u
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 09:32:11 am
Thank you for your response! I want this to last. I also want to hunt with something homemade this year. Maybe I should do one fully cured and a survival bow.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BowEd on April 06, 2020, 09:47:16 am
Crepe myrtle is pretty hard stuff.The harder the longer usually.That also depends on how thick your piece is your wanting dry or to 9% or so.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 10:21:59 am
One of them is not very straight so I am not sure what can be done about that. The other one is fairly straight and has a wonderful bend in the center that feels really good! I might use that as my handle!
I’m trying to upload the pictures but it’s taking forever!
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: Pat B on April 06, 2020, 10:30:06 am
If you reduce the staves to floor tiller stage they will dry quicker. Bee( ;D )sure to seal the back and ends well. I've never worked crepe myrtle but I've seen some pretty nice ones. The first one I saw was made by a guy that went by Thimbo(or something like that) and he was building 90# bows with it.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 12:00:46 pm
Awesome!  I didn’t know if floor tillering now would hurt it. I just want to do something towards it! I have read a lot of threads from Thimbo and Ken75 who do crepe myrtles bows. Ken75 makes beautiful CM bows!

🐝
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 12:04:23 pm
Also, I cut these with a metal cut off blade and burned the ends. It is actually very smooth and seems to be sealed by the burnt sap. I wonder if that is an actual seal? What should I use to seal?
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: TimBo on April 06, 2020, 12:36:33 pm
I like cheap wood glue (even something like Elmer's) for ends.  A can of spray shellac is handy for sealing backs (and can work on ends as well).
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 05:53:40 pm
So there are tiny little knots running down the center of each side. Should I just scrap this stick? I am having trouble uploading a picture.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on April 06, 2020, 06:32:09 pm
work on your fast cure bow,, and shoot it until the other stave is dry,,, sounds like a plan
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 06, 2020, 10:54:34 pm
Here are a few pictures of the CM I chose. I cut it Saturday, stripped it Sunday, and roughed it out today. I am a little concerned about the tiny knots running down the centerline of the bow. They are landing about where I have roughed to. Some of them may be gone by the time I am done but some won't be and I think that would cause some weakness.

(https://i.imgur.com/6GrLZF6.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/ACXeFWU.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jcPfLwc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/sEm2Bwj.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/xyX5ZwB.jpg)
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: Pat B on April 07, 2020, 08:33:24 am
Try to get below the pith(center ring) or it may check there as it dries. Just burnishing the end with a dull saw won't seal it enough. Thinned wood glue, melted wax, shellac or even a couple of layers of paint will seal it, anything that will slow down the drying in that area should work.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 07, 2020, 12:57:14 pm
Pat, thank you! I sealed it last night with wood glue. I will work on getting below that center ring tonight. Am I correct in my understanding that the ends and back should be sealed but not the belly? I know moisture has to escape somehow.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 07, 2020, 06:31:49 pm
Well, that didn’t go as planned! I tried to get below the pith, as Pat had advised, and I ended up with a really flimsy stick  (lol) Oh well! I think I started with a tree that was too small anyway.

What size tree should I look at cutting to get the appropriate size stave?

P.S.- I ended up shortening the one I started and made into a small bow for my daughters! I don’t expect it to last but they are having fun with it!
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: aznboi3644 on April 08, 2020, 05:48:16 am
Here is my take on a Hadzabe style bow made from crepe myrtle.  Except I deflexed the stave to begin with because it was meant to be permanently strung.  The bow was made from a 1 1/18” diameter branch.  Drew 70lbs @ 26”.   Not the most efficient but it wasn’t meant to be. It was fun to shoot and was accurate.   

I paid no attention to the pith on this one.  The branch was seasoned with the bark on for 10 years.

If I were you I would get my hands on all the straight branches I could get that are bigger than 3/4” diameter.  Fun little short bows can be made from them smaller diameter branches.
Title: Re: Crepe Myrtle Bow
Post by: BeePrimitive on April 08, 2020, 10:58:44 am
aznboi, I think I will cut more. My dad planted about an eighth of an acre of CM in the hopes of letting them get up to size to sell. He had some major health problems and they got awa from him. Now that he feels better he is going to clear the land for something else.

I’ll post a picture of the grove and some of the stuff in there.

Thanks for your input!