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Title: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 10:16:29 am
One of my buddies found this road kill snake and brought it to me. I never saw one like it. Almost reminds me of a Boa
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 10:30:20 am
PS I’m in Michigan
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 11:15:35 am
I didn’t take pictures, but during the skinning process I found what I believe were several eggs in different stages of development.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 11:18:13 am
Ended up being just over 3 feet long
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Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: Pat B on July 11, 2020, 12:15:09 pm
Cool looking skin. Could be one of the water snakes. As fresh as the pattern looks it must have just shed it's old skin.
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 12:29:52 pm
I agree Pat. It looks very clean and bright. I had pet snakes before and when they shed they looked so shinny and new.

If it wasn’t a dead road kill I would have let it go had I spotted it. Since it was found as a road kill and brought to me by my buddy. I just couldn’t let it go to waste.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: osage outlaw on July 11, 2020, 12:49:21 pm
That's what I call a corn snake.   I have used them on bows before.  They are cool looking skins.  They come in a grey/red pattern too.  I find them fairly often in my area.  They don't get much bigger than that.  They are smaller than black rat snakes.
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: osage outlaw on July 11, 2020, 12:53:22 pm
Here's one of the grey and red pattern.

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=57085.0
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 01:03:43 pm
Thanks Clint. I’ve been looking online and it very similar to Michigan Rattler. I didn’t see any rattles on it but maybe I didn’t look hard enough. I have never seen one before and thought they were only up north, but while doing presentations people have told me they have seen them locally.

I’m not sure if it is legal to possess or not, but I couldn’t make myself leave it just go to waste

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 01:17:17 pm
I don’t see any rattles though. See sure is pretty.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 02:26:16 pm
Looks like they come in assorted colors Clint. You might be right. Might be a corn snake.

Looks very similar to a Fox Snake to.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: Pat B on July 11, 2020, 02:39:36 pm
Looking at the pic of the whole snake it looks like it has round pupils in it's eye, generally meaning a non-poisonous snake in the US.
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 04:11:44 pm
Looking at the pic of the whole snake it looks like it has round pupils in it's eye, generally meaning a non-poisonous snake in the US.


That’s what I was thinking to Pat
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 11, 2020, 04:46:39 pm
Looks a lot like a eastern milk snake to. Really seems to fit this description the best of anything I’ve found so far and is a Michigan snake
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: Hummingbird Point on July 12, 2020, 12:14:21 pm
I believe it is an eastern hognosed snake.  They are a noticeably "fat" snake like that and have a habit of laying out on the roads in Michigan.  I thing both corn snake and milk snake are out since those snakes are proportionally skinnier, that is they tend toward "long and skinny" while hognosed snakes tend toward "short and fat".
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: Pat B on July 12, 2020, 12:51:48 pm
No "hog nose" on that snake.
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: burchett.donald on July 12, 2020, 04:26:02 pm
Bj, that's an Eastern Milk Snake...Nice looking pattern they have...
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: osage outlaw on July 12, 2020, 04:27:34 pm
Not a hog nose snake in my opinion.   The nose isn't right and the pattern is off.  That picture is deceiving from the angle.  I wouldn't consider that a fat snake.  Look at the lighter next to it for scale.
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: bjrogg on July 12, 2020, 05:01:48 pm
I really think it’s a eastern milk snake. The head was a bit squished. The bottom jaw was stick out a bit. I’ve looked at a bunch of eastern milk snake pictures and it sure looks like the same snake to me. What ever it is, sure has a pretty pattern. The belly pattern goes good with the back to.

Love to have a pair. I do have a really short recurve bendy i was working on at Marshall last year. I’ve been thinking about putting sinew on it. This snake would cover. Most of it.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Snake ID?
Post by: paulc on July 12, 2020, 09:36:26 pm
Corn snake, red rat snake...not venomous.

Paul