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Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: Allyn T on October 01, 2020, 06:04:24 am

Title: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 01, 2020, 06:04:24 am
I've only ever shot a compound before and with those you rest the bow grip on the pad directly below your thumb. I wanna shoot off my fingers without an arrow rest on my self bow. How do you guys hold the bow? I've seen a lot of handle designs where it narrows towards the belly, do you hold in the V of your hand or do you guys still put it on the pad below your thumb?
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: TimBo on October 02, 2020, 08:40:28 am
It varies, but I think lots of people grip similarly (pad under thumb).  Some might think of the main pressure point as more between the thumb and index finger.  Others put more of the palm down and have less of a straight wrist.  I would say do whatever is comfortable.  You can add cork or leather to your existing grip if it doesn't feel right as-is.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 02, 2020, 11:43:22 am
since the grips vary,, I hold a loose grip as described above, but really let the bow handle dictate the grip,, if you shoot a the bow enough, your grip will adapt as needed,,
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 02, 2020, 08:44:28 pm
Ok I'll play around with it. I see handle shape being more important in my future
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 02, 2020, 11:23:18 pm
I think the more simple the grip, the easier to adapt to it,, many great examples in Native American bows,,,
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Pat B on October 03, 2020, 01:04:37 pm
I use a bulbous grip on my bows so I use a whole hand grip with the fat part of the bulbous grip in the center of my hand.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 03, 2020, 07:41:41 pm
Any of you shoot with no hold?
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 04, 2020, 12:08:08 pm
you mean in the shot sequence,, not holding a full draw,, ? if thats the question, I dont hold a full draw,, but when I get there I pull through the shot,, like trying to get the best of a long shot or through a chronograph
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 04, 2020, 02:17:59 pm
you mean in the shot sequence,, not holding a full draw,, ? if thats the question, I dont hold a full draw,, but when I get there I pull through the shot,, like trying to get the best of a long shot or through a chronograph
Yes! That's exactly what I'm talking about! I like the idea of pulling through. I had originally intended to come to anchor and release with no hold
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 04, 2020, 06:20:29 pm
since I shoot quite a few short bows too,, my anchor floats,, and I dont really need to hold unless Im waiting for the deer to step into a shooting lane,,I make the short bows heavy enough that there is no danger of over draw,,, I just draw it as far as I can and release,, knowing I am at the right draw length at that time,,
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Pat B on October 04, 2020, 06:29:52 pm
I release as soon as I hit anchor. If, over time I find myself short drawing I will hold for a second or 2 for a few shots then back to release on hitting anchor.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 04, 2020, 07:08:44 pm
I sometimes tie a string on the arrow to hit the right draw, ,till im used to it,,
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 04, 2020, 08:29:31 pm
I release as soon as I hit anchor. If, over time I find myself short drawing I will hold for a second or 2 for a few shots then back to release on hitting anchor.
Thats what I'm going to attempt to do, how quickly do you draw
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 04, 2020, 09:43:17 pm
I try to draw smoothly so when I hit full draw I am aimed at the same time,, not sure how Pat does it,, (-S
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Pat B on October 04, 2020, 10:59:05 pm
Allyn, that depends on the circumstance. When I'm hunting and I see a deer on the way I stand, set my feet to where I think the deer is coming and put tension on the string. From this point I usually don't remember the actual shot. I'm concentrating where the arrow will go and my brain and body does the rest. On 3D targets my draw probably a second or two from start to release.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 05, 2020, 05:00:50 am
Smooth operator  8)
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Pat B on October 05, 2020, 07:05:27 am
No, it's almost 40 years of shooting.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 05, 2020, 07:30:30 am
Pat I hope mojam happens next year, I think you would be a cool cat to meet
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Pat B on October 05, 2020, 08:16:03 am
I've never been to MoJam and unfortunately probably never will be. It has always been a dream of mine but I doubt it will ever come true.
I hope to be at the Tenn. Classic next spring if you can make that.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 05, 2020, 09:34:15 am
Where are you from pat? Idk if my wife will let me go to two ha
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Pat B on October 05, 2020, 12:14:30 pm
I live in Brevard, NC in the Southern Appalachian Mountains.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on October 05, 2020, 12:39:17 pm
Oh yeah that's quite the trip
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Woody roberts on December 07, 2020, 06:01:13 pm
Are you in MO. Allyn ?
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on December 07, 2020, 06:16:56 pm
Yes sir I'm about 40min west of st.louis
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Woody roberts on December 07, 2020, 06:33:42 pm
I’m in Ash Grove, about 25 mile northwest of Springfield.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on December 07, 2020, 07:27:38 pm
Says your about 3 he and 45 min away from me : ) my wife and I went to the bass pro out there in 2019 to see the aquarium and museum
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Woody roberts on December 07, 2020, 08:18:26 pm
Where does Mojam take place?
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on December 07, 2020, 08:38:07 pm
Marshall MO
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: HH~ on December 13, 2020, 08:22:32 am
The problem of letting arrow go when you hit FD can have unintended consequences.  With lts of folks it will condition you to let arrow go no mater where its pointed at FD. I would tell you to "stay away" from that BIGTIME. May work for some but as a rule for accuracy its not a good idea.

Lots and lots of selfbow shooters shot with there bow sideway and humped up like like a monkee humping a beach ball. Some shoot very well like this but that style always reveals its flaws over course of say 30-70 arrows. When I think of one the better shooter who shoots a modified sideways I think of K. Cartwright. One of the very best drive by shooters there is USA today. If you dont have some centershot i guess you need to learn this method. This method of hit FD and release is usually shot by guys who also dont have a sighting method. They basically memorize then trajectory of arrow and shoot at target. This really is hard when you add pressure and distance.

Releases: I use two and I use them for different & specific reasons. Dynamic & Static; I also use them in combination with face walking or some string walking with selfbow. Depends what you want the arrow to do. These things are almost impossible to do with out some clearance in the sight widow for the shaft if you shoot upright.

Grip: that depends what the bow likes for your style of shot. Some like a more controlled grip some SB's like a more relaxed grip. Depends on the shape of riser you have. Most selfbow I have shot upright like a more controlled grip especially with a dynamic release shots.

What ever you utilize to make a shot, a good shot. a lethal shot when you hit the woodline your only getting one to put meat in your families mouth so make that one a good one.

HH~
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on December 13, 2020, 09:10:39 am
Thanks hedge, I'll have to experiment and see what works best. All my bow experience has been with a compound thus far so that's all draw settle pin and squeeze trigger until surprise. Last thing I want to do is wound an animal, it's not fair to them to suffer for us being to lax practicing.
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Hawkdancer on December 13, 2020, 11:36:33 am
Yes sir I'm about 40min west of st.louis
Somewhere around Washington, Wentzville, Pacific?
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Shooting grip
Post by: Allyn T on December 13, 2020, 04:55:44 pm
North of pacific 5 min east of wentzville