Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Shooting and Hunting => Topic started by: bow kid44 on May 03, 2008, 10:51:07 pm
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what kind of arrow heads do you use for small game hunting ??? espielly squirrels.
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I myself....wouldn't Hunt a Squirrel for nothing....but for Rabbits.....Quail ....and other Small Game....I either use 357 casings with the Primers knocked out...and a small Nail put in it.....them fit it to your Shaft...or just use Field Points
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Mike are ya a tree rat lover ? Ole' "one eye " has ya in his feed lane huh ? ;D........bob
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Mike are ya a tree rat lover ? Ole' "one eye " has ya in his feed lane huh ? ;D........bob
I don't know what it is Bob....but I have always had a soft Spot for Tree Rats...they came and eat from My Hands...sit with Me in the Tree Stand eating Sunflower Seeds with Me during Bow Season.....I don't know .....I used to Shoot them for a Quarter when I was a Kid....the Old Italian Man down the Road from from Our Homestead ....would give Me a Nickel for every Black Bird.....Quarter for a Squirrel....and 3 shiny Dimes for a Robin.....he loved Robin's....and they were the State Bird....so they were worth more!!!!!!!
I have nothing against People Shooting them...aint no Tree Hugger.....just don't Hunt what I wont eat!!
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yup me too, wont kill what i wont eat.
a plate full of rat just never did look good to me.thats just nasty.
unlike fried chickens feet and headcheese,thems good eats there.
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yup me too, wont kill what i wont eat.
a plate full of rat just never did look good to me.thats just nasty.
unlike fried chickens feet and headcheese,thems good eats there.
Yer about as Messed up as I am....I grew up with Cornish Grandparents on my Fathers Side....and Ojibwe on my Mothers.....I mean to tell ya....them Brits will eat about anything!!!! And I grew to like most of it......now look what you did.....We went from Arrow Point to Plates of Food in 5 posts!!!!!!
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yup me too, wont kill what i wont eat.
a plate full of rat just never did look good to me.thats just nasty.
unlike fried chickens feet and headcheese,thems good eats there.
if you had our tree rat it recipe it would change your opinion squirrel is one of my favorite foods ;D
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Whenever Ive sot them with a fieldpoint they just run around with the dern thing in em( not to be vulgar)The last time I shot one, I hit it with a broad headd thru the head, lucky shot. The broad head is the way to go, just don't use expensive ones, I lost a magnus stinger in a tree on one of them lil buggers. That missed shot cost me 10 bucks.
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yeah no field points for small game, trade points and blunts with nails in them...
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smooth blunts so they dont stick in the tree, i never had a problem killing them with a simple no cut blunt...but i do hunt with heavy bows even for small game. say the 60-65lbs range, incase i come across an armadillo or hog or something harder to get an arrow through.- Ryan
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I have tried many small game points and the best I have found so far is by far the cheapest and easiest. Taper the end of your shaft and thread a hex nut(nutter) on to the taper. When the nut bottoms out add a few drops of super glue and you are done. You get both penetration and a lot of shock. Pat
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ill have to give it a try mr pat... sounds easy and it wont dull or break in your quiver.
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i love nutters just at Pat desribed i shoot them at blackbirds in mine and my neighbors yard >:D but i will squirrel hunt with them this fall
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hey dave you been after black birds too? i have fired prob. fifty shots, havent got one yet, a might close but no hits, they are smart little buggers. they are fun to stalk.
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I've tried hunting those blackbirds, but unfortunately, they stay mostly in the 'civilized' areas, making them a bit difficult, to say the least. :D
Sean
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robins beat all. followed by rabit, dove, tree rat, coon,possum, so on. i should know. at 6 ft 5 300 pounds i put away some grocerys. ;D
back to the original question, i like judo points. they dont stick in trees or go under grass, but the wires work like a broadhead on soft small game. >:D
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I shot probably 40 rabbits between last year and this year, and I quit using judos on them. I ended up hitting alot of them in the rear hams, and the judo would go all the way through. The wire arms would drag dirt and hair all the way through the wound channel and it was almost impossible to get it all out. I started using just plain old steel blunts, and they didnt do that at all. Now I mainly hunt rabbits out on the prairie, so the blunt does a good enough job of keeping the arrow from being lost, and the wound channel stays clean. Also, I found out last year, that jackrabbits dont like getting hit with judos, they tend to run 2 miles away and they dont give your arrow back :-)
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lol, never shot a jackrabit. titan bow, what poundage bow you shooting and at what range? im sceard to shoot blunts off of my 45 lb long cuz im sceard they wont kill small game.
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I shot them with a 60# selfbow, and a 53# Wes Wallace longbow. Both bows would usually push the judo completely through, impaling the rabbit in the middle of the arrow. My steel blunts do basically the same thing. I shoot a 600-650gr arrow. Most shots are close range, 25 yards max
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hey dave you been after black birds too? i have fired prob. fifty shots, havent got one yet, a might close but no hits, they are smart little buggers. they are fun to stalk.
i have grazed them but not actually hit one yet.i have fired alot of shots but havent connected yet :-\. i will though soon.
they are very smart. they always bust me. there is little cover in my yard so i quickly turn the corner and fling it ;D
sometimes they taunt me. they will land on my neighbors fence and just sit there daring me.
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wow titon. dead bunny. how can i make some blunts for my arras?
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I hunt a lot of small game and game birds with hand made arrows. I can honestly say that although most anything tied to a shaft will kill if the shot is perfect. However the shot is not always dead on with a small and sometimes moving target. So i would encourage you young guys to shoot broadheads at everything you hunt. you can make points from wood, bone, steel ,stone ,even plastics that will kill quickly and humanely. We owe it to the prey we hunt to kill as quickly and cleanly as possible..hope this helps brothers, post some pics of those kills for all to share.. ;D Hawk
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Where I hunt rabbits, alot of times it spot and stalk while they are sitting right at the opening to their hole. I shot a few last year with old broadheads I had, the arrow zipped clean through them and they darted down into their hole :-( The thing I like about blunts is that it impales them so its harder for them to get into their hole.
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yeah, thats healpfull. i think that i can make some sheetmetal heads.
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Recurve Hunter, empty .38 casings make good blunts, and if there is a public shooting range near you, you can usually find them for free
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cool, dont know where a range is, but i got a grandpa! ;) i'll just shoot his a few times and take the shells.
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This is the head I developed and being using for the past 2 years, the devastating power of the wide rubber blunt is combined with a desing to make it judo like.
I've never lost one to date, and it's very friendly to you wood shafts
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/000_0047.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/boar018.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Boar%20ELB/HPIM0336.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/Boar%20ELB/boar.jpg)
With this different blunts you can match the weigth of your broadheads, 125gr, 160gr, and 190gr
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/hunt/011_11A.jpg)
...an option, if you feel you need it
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/hunt/013_13.jpg)
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Thats cool Manny how about a build a long on it :)
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That looks like a great bunny buster ! Does it cause alot of bloodshot meat if you hit 'em in the body or hams?
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whats the animal in the top pic ???
i dont know what it is.
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O.K. this is how you make this head......
but first let me tell you how this head came about.
The first mongoose I killed was with a Judo, the head made a bloody mess of the poor critter and didn't even killed it.
than I started using all kinds of different points, the Adder behind a field point, blunt broadheads, tiger claw, and Judo again, ...now the mongoose is a tougth little bugger and they took all my arrows down the holes with them, I was hitting lots of them but never retriving one.
than I tried HTM blunts and 3/8" hex heads, and bingo, I was killing them on the spot, the only problem was that when I missed most of the time was a lost arrow.
I had this blunts at the house that had real bad flight caratteristics so i naver used them, one day i was looking at one, and I saw it, like when you look at a tree and see the bow inside.
So the TARANTULA was born, this head has all the best caratteristics for a small game stumping head in one, the desing slows it down in flight as well, almost working as a flu flu.
It's unbreackable, cheap, and very easy on wood shafting.
Now get one of this blunts from 3RIVERS
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/hunt/010_10A.jpg)
with an exacto knife cut out the pie shaped wedges
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d124/NorthShoreLB/hunt/012_12A.jpg)
and bingo you have the TARANTULA, mach it in weight to your broadheads like a showed before (can't do that with Judo)...you can evendrive a nail thru the middle before putting the head over the blunt/ 38 casing,...now thats flexibility ;)
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Thats ingenuity is what that is Manny....and I am going to run and Patent it tomorrow!!!!! Not!!!! But I am going to get me a few of them....and get rid of these Feral Cats around here once and for all!! I have Live trapped 8 in the last week...and now the Pound don't even want Me to bring anymore to them....what the Heck are they there for??? Thanks for the Look See....and I will let you know if they work as good on Ferals as they do on Mongooses... I hate to Shoot what I wont eat....but they are causing damage like a herd of Feral Hogs....killing all of my Garden ...and even my Shrubs......Wholly-Whuh
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You'll like this guys, espetially if you have rocky terrain, they save a lot of shafts
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Thanks for sharing Manny, I have a feeling 3 rivers is going to have a run on these babies :)
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yup. defenently a good bunie buster. did someone say you can make points from boo? if so, how?
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Yep, archers all around the country have being trying this head, and I had great feedbacks, all kind of critters have being killed.
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I don't bow hunt them.I love squirrel though.Eat them in dumplings or with biscuits and gravy.UMMMM
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Time you start bowhunting them then ;)
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i jist wonder the posted woods behind my house with my longbow and stick anything in season. people are stupid enough today that if someone sees me all i got to do is drop my quiver and unstring the bow
(an elb) and say its a walkin stick and i was just out lookin around. O:)
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Rigth on . ...thats the real pirate spirit ;D ;)
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:P Ahhhh...Squirrel stew. With thick gravy, potatoes, carrots, and onions, served with hot sourdough biscuits and a good bottle of port wine. My mouth is watering already. :P
A friend of mine uses a system that I thought I might add. He take a field point and solders a heavy flat washer to it just in back of the bodkin area. This allows good penetration as well as a good bit of shock power. This point work really good on 'larger' smallgame such as rabbits or what we call foolhens, Mountain Grouse, but not so good on 'smaller' smallgame like squirrels.
I'm going to give Nomadic Pirate's blunt point a try as my friend points do too much damage on squirrel size game. Thanks for sharing this blunt tip with us Nomadic Pirate. I do have one question for Nomadic Pirate though. What is the name on the original blunt tip that you buy from3RIVERS?? OR will they have a picture of it when I go to order it so that I might be able to identify it.
Thanks& good hunting, Donavan
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Donovan, they are called "Bludgeon small game blunt"
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You'll enjoy them, I gurante it...... Glad you're open minded and will try them