Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: sleek on January 15, 2021, 08:32:11 pm
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I know how edgy this post can quickly turn out to be. I ask my fellow forumites to stay within the velvet ropes here.
I was just put on a ban on Facebook with no given reason or apparent provocation. Seems its happening to many. The ban restriction is indefinite and restricts usage of market place, events, posting in all groups and the ability to form groups. If that happens to you, you arent alone and probably didn't do anything to deserve it. If you have any insights, id like to hear them, even if its just a "me too".
This sucks because of all the bow making groups im part of i can't participate in and id be willing to bet many soon won't be.
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You didn't post anything positive about 2nd amendment, did you? >:D Not a bad enemy to have. I am a little alarmed they're going after lower profile people, not just public figures. Anyway, I cancelled media before media could cancel me.
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This sucks because of all the bow making groups im part of i can't participate in and id be willing to bet many soon won't be.
Can you make a second account and keep that very vanilla to stay under the radar? I assume you can, but I have never used any social media so I don't know how fussy they get about multiple accounts or if they ban users or IP addresses.
The way this is going it is going to kill the internet, which will be a huge loss for all of us.
Mark
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FB is fan club of the Have and Have-nots. The only commodity FB has is You, the user. Be proud you got banned from those folks. The more people that leave the better.
The hypocrisy of the the twitters, FB, snapchats, instagram, IMGUR and the rest is palpable. Wear it like you stole it! Ma Bell got regulated and so will these BIG Tech folks.
Why wait around for them to ban selfows enthusiasts.
HH~
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The way this is going it is going to kill the internet, which will be a huge loss for all of us.
What makes you say that? I'm not a tech person.
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What makes you say that? I'm not a tech person.
The reason the internet got to the size and scope it is today is because it was largely unregulated and open to all. Between politicians wanting to regulate and/or break up companies and kill section 230, and the big tech companies deciding to take sides on who they will allow and deal with it is going to destroy the open access and free speech that was the basis for the growth of the internet. The internet isn't going to vanish, but I think it is going to become much more restricted and segmented, which will hurt access, innovation and economic growth.
TBH, it was a near miracle that governments around the world left it alone for as long as they did. Unconstrained free trade and nearly unrestricted free speech scares them to death. The incredible innovation and economic growth that occurred just shows what is possible when government stays out of the way and lets people live their lives as they see fit. It's really too bad that experiment is ending.
Mark
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The Google/Amazon Army has more data on everyone than the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc combined. The second you think that is not the case you hand them the upper hand.
#1 Priciple of fighting the Google War of data collection. No not unlike fighting an Insurgency... "Assume the Enemy is watching your activity at all times" . Plan all operations with this at the top of the list to defeat it.
Assume they are collecting on you at all times. Every time you buy gas, booze, food, bank, shop you are being collected on. Every camera has ability to use highly advance facial recognition form their end. Even private camera's Ring etc.
This is not different than the way the DDR operated under Russian occupation except they use Human Data collection and reporting. Everyone collected on everyone else.
How do you think the FBI is rounding up folks from Jan 6th in DC. HUMINT and Google Army using facial Req!
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I know, I've heard stories coming out of 'our very dear friend in trade' away west.
When someone who works for a fed intelligence agency dislikes carrying a smartphone you have to wonder why.
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Yep
Why you cant go anywhere near a SCIF with a fone, tablet, earpiece, laptop or any other eletronic device. They can be turned inside and be used to collect data. Very powerful devices. Assume everything say or type on one to run thru the giant server farm in Southern AZ!!
If yer using a Google / Apple / Amazon platform that not using end to end encryption on A VPN
YOU Are Getting COLLECTED on.
Say key words Patriot, Boogaloo, Insurrection, Antifa, Civil WAR you data is going to tagged and throw thru another algorithm for further matches for pull down screening.
If your only excuse to be on FB is friends an ink pad and contact list work well. After all when the lights go out FB won't be working. If your only connection to world is FB that creek is gonna be hard to paddle in.
Shawn~
Shawn~
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At least the technocracy regime is catching flack for censoring, I've heard they lost billions in value these past weeks.
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FB lost 46 million in one night! The big problem is Google/Amazon Army owns all the server farms save a few GVT ones.
So, we are right back to the Ma Bell problem Monopoly of a publicly used resource. Time for a change people.
Shawn~
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I wonder if it is to late to bring up an anti trust suit.
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When You hear the original Super Socialist (Merkal) question the act of banning free speech thru Open Sourced World Wide Web services like FB, Twit, Insta-Terd, etc. for banning folks.
You quickly realize the jig will surely be up soon.
After all. . . . Who do you think created the WWW ????????????
Clue: It was located between Kalifornia and Virginia
Shawn~
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I'm too ugly for facebook and dumb to have a smartphone...
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Yep me also Paul, no worries on my part if it all goes away but I know a lot that live on it. O well as Sleek said, i have been around here a long time and can see this thread not going well, so keep it nice guys. I know everyone has their own thoughts on these issues but they just won't be allowed here. Have a great day. ;)
Pappy
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Yep me also Paul, no worries on my part if it all goes away but I know a lot that live on it. O well as Sleek said, i have been around here a long time and can see this thread not going well, so keep it nice guys. I know everyone has their own thoughts on these issues but they just won't be allowed here. Have a great day. ;)
Pappy
Yeah, I wasn't trying to go political just letting people know its happening and wondering if anyone else has had it happen to them too. Also since a lot of folks here are members of Facebook archery groups, this does concern them as well.
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Twitter lost about 85 million followers when the dropped the President. Like a domino effect . Once that happened folks cut their accounts off.
FB and the like are all Google Army product warriors. Better than letting Heawai in here from China i guess but not much.
Word is Elon will help launch The Patriot News Network. If the IPO goes public i will buy 1000 shares 1st day.
Shawn
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Twitter lost about 85 million followers when the dropped the President.
Can you point to where you got that number from?
Mark
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Keep in mind what happened to Parlor. For standing up for free speech, the billion dollar company was wrecked and their CEO is in hiding. I support free speech, but from a business prospective I'm glad I didn't have money invested in it.
Sun Tzu outlined a strategy for infiltrating and subduing a nation with subterfuge and minimal force; basically working from the inside out 'so attacking is only a formality' if I remember correctly. I have a feeling that strategy is being used against us :-\; the technocracy is not helping.
Don't worry Pappy, we're not talking about politics, we're just talking about those behind the politics >:D ;D
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I am in favor of the free expression of opinion.
But I am against the spreading of untruths under the guise of free speech.
Politicians, extremists, fraudsters, conspiracy believers, etc. have had a very easy time spreading their opinions (even if they are far from the truth) on social media channels. In the meantime, some content is being censored in this regard. Sure, you can say that companies follow the pressure of people who are against free speech, but don't they just follow the majority, because companies are part of the economic process and with the majority behind them the most money can be made. The most widely used platforms all come from the US. The biggest tech companies originated there. The companies, especially the social media companies, just show us how capitalism works in pure culture with modern means.
They fight against each other for economic power and success, and the users are their cannon fodder...
In my eyes, this has never been a truly free expression of opinion, but the users have been exploited and even more so when demagogues, extremists and other frauds have abused these platforms for their own purposes.
If you don't want that, then you shouldn't take part in this circus.
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Kind of correct.
The problem with stuff like WhatsApp and FB they have no keepers, no regulators. USA built the World Wide Web maybe we should just tax everyone in the World who logs on to it that does not have an IP in the USA. Then, let the Space Force in Huntsville be the new Regulators in Chief of it.
Pay up or Shut er down. See what rest of world will do then.
HH~
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The largest Big Tech issue is Constitutional Privacy of the Citizen.
Athough the FBI may not have the right to dig up your background unless they have cause BUT. . . . . they can differ to their Big Tech friends and they can them do it for them and they have and they are right now!!!!!
Who do you think is vetting the Soldiers in WA DC right now? Not FBI, they have admitted they can not do 25K troop vets in time. Who do you think they will turn to. . . . ? Yep, The Google Army! None of which is legal for the GVt to use.
HH~
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They have to vet the troops for this? Isn't it enough that they have been accepted into the armed forces and taken an oath? If this becomes a pattern the army will be composed of only the politically correct :o
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US Army now is being vetted for insider threats so says FBI. But the cant do the Vetting for all so you know they will turn to Twitter Men.
More BIG TECH BS that almost 99% of the nation does not know. . . .
Your states make investment into BIG Tech in many ways. The invest Taxpayer funds into them. Well, that's about to come to screeching halt in sates like Texas and Tenn. We in Tenn are going to force our state to Divest all intrests in these Big Spy Ops. Great news. Our national radio station out of Nashville has been leading the way for folks to cancel all Twitt, FB, Google Army Products and well as Amazone and others.
Dont get caught by Memory Hole Cops.
HH~
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Well, for some reason, immediately after the inauguration i am free to post on Facebook again as I was before. What a weird occurrence.
I'll stop there.
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Did you try right before?
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I had tried around noon.
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Yeah, I bet. I had to dump some stuff on my fone and on computer. WhatsApp, should got that FB product gone a lone time ago. I have Signal now for encrypted coms now. No Google Army collecting on me thru that crap.
Never had any Social Dis-Media ever. Could see what we have now coming since 1996-97. I use to laugh at folks all getting hemmed up thru FB by GVT. Was not hard to see that they would partner with GVT when they wanted and tell them to pound sand when they wished as well.
Apple (sell phone cracking of dirtbaggers).
Bunch of us were talking at TO when Bomber blew the crap out of 2nd Ave on Christmas morning. AT&T service went down for about a 250 mile radius here. After one day the Weak of Heart lost their minds. We had folks who could not get on FB or Twittville and we going into ER for Meds!!! LMFAO... We all were.
Wait til Amazon starts the GOOGLE/AMAZON Unmaaned Air Force! Flying UAV's in your Privtae Airspace. I checked my Deed (have a heaven to Hell). You know what that means.
Where's the PA print copy anyone know????
Shawn~
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I am in favor of the free expression of opinion.
But I am against the spreading of untruths under the guise of free speech.
Politicians, extremists, fraudsters, conspiracy believers, etc. have had a very easy time spreading their opinions (even if they are far from the truth) on social media channels. In the meantime, some content is being censored in this regard. Sure, you can say that companies follow the pressure of people who are against free speech, but don't they just follow the majority, because companies are part of the economic process and with the majority behind them the most money can be made. The most widely used platforms all come from the US. The biggest tech companies originated there. The companies, especially the social media companies, just show us how capitalism works in pure culture with modern means.
They fight against each other for economic power and success, and the users are their cannon fodder...
In my eyes, this has never been a truly free expression of opinion, but the users have been exploited and even more so when demagogues, extremists and other frauds have abused these platforms for their own purposes.
If you don't want that, then you shouldn't take part in this circus.
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Twitter lost about 85 million followers when the dropped the President.
US active twitter users are little less than 70 millions.
Outside US the ban did not raised much dust.
it's pretty unlikely that 85 millions of highly addicted social users dropped their drug
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Woke Orthadoxy is a powerful stick in the vein! Rupert Murdoch had it exactly right this week!
I think the Big tech will get it hard when we change section 230 and the Anti Trust breakups start. You'll hear the loudest squeal in history. USA built the WWW and we will now regulate it after BiG Tech Monkee abuses.
Yer right, for most the Social Media addiction. Like getting dogs hooked on Pot treats for their aches and pains. Geeez Louise.
HH~
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I am in favor of the free expression of opinion.
But I am against the spreading of untruths under the guise of free speech.
Politicians, extremists, fraudsters, conspiracy believers, etc. have had a very easy time spreading their opinions (even if they are far from the truth) on social media channels. In the meantime, some content is being censored in this regard. Sure, you can say that companies follow the pressure of people who are against free speech, but don't they just follow the majority, because companies are part of the economic process and with the majority behind them the most money can be made. The most widely used platforms all come from the US. The biggest tech companies originated there. The companies, especially the social media companies, just show us how capitalism works in pure culture with modern means.
They fight against each other for economic power and success, and the users are their cannon fodder...
In my eyes, this has never been a truly free expression of opinion, but the users have been exploited and even more so when demagogues, extremists and other frauds have abused these platforms for their own purposes.
If you don't want that, then you shouldn't take part in this circus.
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I'm hoping Meta goes down the drain. They rely on lazy, lousy AI upset by single words rather than humans lighting fires by expressing they approve of NSFW drawings of minors. You would report people like this, and Facebook or Famoid for Instagram followers (https://famoid.com/buy-instagram-followers/) would not consider it a problem. But you insult the person for discussing such things, and you can't say that! So, again, yeah. A person who approves of NSFW drawings of minors irritated me; I called them horrible, and Facebook blocked me for 5 days after digging up something I said a year ago. Isn't that a great knee-slapper?