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Title: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on March 31, 2021, 12:33:06 am
What do you all wear when hunting? I've just worn a checkered red shirt usually, and sometimes something over part of my face with mixed results....
for some reason, I have a dislike for a lot of modern hunting clothes, I guess just from all the marketing about it... but is it really better?


and how about boots aswell... I know that the rubber hunting boots are meant to greatly reduce cent left on the ground, which ive heard many hunters swear by these. but they are kinda gross looking ;D.   and seem very heavy and most places I hunt are at least a mile or so of a ruff hike in... they aslo seem hard to stalk in whatsover....


 id love to hear all of your opinions of this :)
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Hawkdancer on March 31, 2021, 01:24:55 am
Fox,
Whatever works for you!  Big game animals are pretty much color blind.  Just be sure your footwear fits, is broken in, and provides traction.  Whatever camo you  wear shoul match the terrain you are hunting.
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Pat B on March 31, 2021, 08:04:44 am
Sitting still and having the wind in your favor are the most important things. Patterned cloths is a help to break up your profile and having good cover behind you to break up your profile also helps.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Allyn T on March 31, 2021, 08:41:10 pm
I agree with pat and rubber boots suck.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: WhistlingBadger on March 31, 2021, 11:19:52 pm
Rubber boots might make sense for stand hunting.  For stalking in the mountains, I like a good, flat-sole leather boot (the original Wandertoes boot is the best ever, in my opinion--too bad they quit making it) or running shoes if the weather's nice.

My hunting clothes are a mix of modern camo and gray/brown plaid shirts.  I like both.  The animals don't seem to care too much.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on April 01, 2021, 12:57:19 am
hmm...

trying to decide if If I should buy gear with a camo pattern or stick with the flannel...
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Mesophilic on April 01, 2021, 03:06:56 am
Keep in mind if you go flannel that cervids can see the blue spectrum and some green wavelengths.   Other critters can see shades of colors, too.  So if you're trying to hide from them keep color selection in mind.

For my area I find the Italian vegitato to be ideal.  Found some on sale for $15 for a complete set of BDU's...they're a bit big on me but for $15 for top, bottom, and a cap I can live with it.

I've watched Gill hunt in all kinds of not so natural colors and he seems to do pretty well so I'm personal reevaluating  as well.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: chamookman on April 01, 2021, 03:45:12 am
All these "new" Camo patterns, are disigned to take Your money. For Me, a Green/Black Woolrich Shirt - Dark Grey Wool Pants - LL Beans Maine Hunting Shoes fit the Bill perfectly ! Bob
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Allyn T on April 01, 2021, 07:33:24 am
Fox I will say I don't have anything against camo, I do think a lot of hunting clothes are over priced. My biggest thing is staying warm and my hunting clothes do happen to be my warmest clothes that's the most important to me, oh and pockets gotta have good pockets : )
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Tradslinger on April 01, 2021, 08:36:44 am
I have always said that I wear camo to hide from other hunters. I got very good at blending my treestands in to trees so that they wouldn't be used or stolen. I hunt on a lease now and just use plaid shirts and brown or black pants. I get all of them cheap at a resale store.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Eric Krewson on April 01, 2021, 09:56:19 am
I gave up camo a long time ago, earth tone pants and plaids work for me.

That said, old age, physical decline, loss of my former great hunting land and an empty freezer had me pulling out my Ghillie suit and a modern rifle for hunting out the back door last year, it didn't matter, I never saw the first deer.  For the last 20 years I could have killed 25 out the back door every year if chose, this year was different, my camera showed dozens of deer but all were strictly nocturnal.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gifford on April 01, 2021, 12:22:22 pm
I've used Carhart 'farmer' Brown for years, and green cruiser coat, and old Army woodland green camo all with similar results. Footwear depends on type of hunting (still, blind, treestand) and prevailing weather conditions. YMMV
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on April 01, 2021, 12:23:44 pm
Okay... probably going to stick with the gear I have for the time being then.  I've liked the idea of ghillie suits Eric ;D

No luck last year for me with the bow... going to have to start getting out in the woods and scouting for this fall. been having a hard time connecting with deer.... thinking about setting up a game came, although I hunt public land so worried about that getting stolen... I guess ill see! :)
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: archeryrob on April 09, 2021, 09:13:46 am
I use German Flecktarn now, because I can't get US issue fatigues cheap any more. I can't live without my six pocket pants hunting. Plus it is a proven camo like woodland and I can't stand the new digital stuff, but the digital battle uniform is nice, but even harder to get stuff to buy.

For boots I mainly use Cabelas Full Draw light season archery boots. Damn sole fell off on one and had to JB weld it back on. I walk a long ways also and get dressed in the stand if it is cold. I can't get my over pants over my big boots so I clip blanket boots to my pack when its is cold out. I can stalk in these fine, but I would not say they are the best. Now that BPS owns them I am afraid to buy anything from them anymore.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 13, 2021, 12:45:41 pm
braintan outfit ... unbelievable results while wearing it too... animals just can not figure out what you are .. truly remarkable... gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on April 14, 2021, 11:55:57 pm
braintan outfit ... unbelievable results while wearing it too... animals just can not figure out what you are .. truly remarkable... gut


This is the direction I'm headed gut :)

gotta shoot one more deer to get enough hide for my jacket ;) thinking about ling it with beaver fur or coon :)
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 15, 2021, 10:30:53 am
will take about 4 skins for a jacket.. depending on size.. it took me about a month before I could get the courage to put the scissors to my hides..LOL.. my outfit took 6 skins total..  2 for leggings , 4 for shirt and moccasins, they took 4 rabbit skins to line.. but they are so comfortable and quiet .. wish I had made this outfit years ago.. special thanks to BowEd for all the advice and a dry scraper.. I got 7 finished hides still ready to be sewn into outfit #2... all in all I got about 60 hours in the outfit ... worth every minute .. as for lining your jacket.. that is going to take a lot of coon hides or beaver.. when you finish it step back and look at the heirloom you just completed that will be passed down in your family for many many years...first year in the stand wearing it I got a dandy 18" wide 8 point.. walked right under me along with 4 other bucks.. never knew I was there.. gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on April 15, 2021, 11:36:21 am
Dang 4 hides... that will take a while ;D

I’ve only got 1 just about done.... I have a pile of coon fur in the freezer, as well as a huge beaver :)

We still haven’t figured out fur on tanning though...
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 16, 2021, 11:21:15 am
 you can always go to a deer cooler and pick up as many skins as you want for free.. .. they usually just throw them away at least they do here... it will take 1 for front 1 for back 1 for each arm.. 4 skins.. arms take more skin than you would think... I thought I could get both arms out of a skin..its possible but you don't want to go diagonal on your skin cutting for your garment ..  I like working doe skins more than bucks too.. they tend to be thinner and seem to get more soft...  not that huge of a difference but there is... fresh road kill is an option also.. usually no holes to deal with either.. haha...no shame in using a resource not harvested by you. another mans junk is another mans treasure.. js .. gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 16, 2021, 11:31:56 am
fur on tanning isn't that hard.. beaver you have to thin some spots because it is too thick in areas.. I just flesh stretch in a rack and let dry then brain flesh side only, I was told not to get brains on fur side so I didn't..I rubbed as much brains as I could each time in hide and then saturated it well and put in the towel , I wrapped in a towel and let set over night .. I had to brain my beaver 3 times too, 2 full jobs, 3rd was just in spots that didn't get as soft as I wanted.. ... I pulled to dry each time.. not sure if that is necessary though..also worked it over a flattened stick in some spots to get it really soft..  first beaver. and it came out sweet. it is super soft now, hangs with no stiff spots and then I smoked it.. gonna make a hat out of that rascal.. coon.. I havent done yet.. gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: BowEd on April 16, 2021, 12:36:24 pm
gut......Try freezing the hair on hide after braining.Then thawing and roping.You might like the ease of how much and how soft it gets.
 Great job on that beaver.Nothing like brain tanned smoked leather.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Yooper Bowyer on April 16, 2021, 12:38:14 pm
What happens if the brains get on the hair?  How do you smoke a fur?
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: BowEd on April 16, 2021, 10:07:15 pm
A little brain solution on the edges of fur is'nt a big deal.Easily washed off with a wet rag.The hide is roped and stretched flesh side every direction against the rope or over a stake of some sort.Smoke a hair on hide flesh side in.
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 19, 2021, 10:57:42 am
the way I smoked my beaver and rabbit was I taped them in a 5 gallon buck then put my smoke sack to bucket and taped it.. was really quick to set up that way.. I then just tied a rope to handle and hung them over my metal fire bucket.. not sure if that is the way to do it but they worked great, it did dampen the fur side some but dried quickly after wards with no hair loss.. house smelled like smoked backstraps... I love the smell.. daughter not so much LOL.......I'll definitely try that next time ED.. your advice has been top notch every time... gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on April 20, 2021, 12:14:40 am
gut don't you experience problems with lousy skinners from the meat lockers? I have access to lots of hides from Nabors that hunt, but they cut up the hides so bad when I ring them out they turn into shredded hides :-\

Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 20, 2021, 10:42:47 am
the processor down here is fabulous.. they dont skin the hides .. they pull the hides with a winch.. knife only touches around neck, legs and gut..I went and picked up 10 hides at once..lol.. gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Hawkdancer on April 20, 2021, 02:21:08 pm
Fox,
You might volunteer to do the skinning for them, that way you can control the result.  Check with the local processor about skinning for them as well, but they are in business to make money, and time is money.  Using a winch is a good idea! 
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: gutpile on April 20, 2021, 04:12:42 pm
they get 7 bucks to skin a hide ..takes less than 5 minutes the way they do it.. I could of got as many as I could load... they just take them to the dump.. incredible.. I felt a tear rolling down my cheek.. gut
Title: Re: opinion on modern camo
Post by: Fox on April 23, 2021, 01:09:10 pm
they get 7 bucks to skin a hide ..takes less than 5 minutes the way they do it.. I could of got as many as I could load... they just take them to the dump.. incredible.. I felt a tear rolling down my cheek.. gut

Its pretty messed up :-\

yeah everyone around here sucks at skinning... they always cut the hides up sooo bad  :( pretty annoying.... well except for one guy which taught me to skin deer.... hed does it with a tractor ;D (although i just pull them off now) I should ask him to save them for me