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Title: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 09, 2021, 05:33:53 am
This was a super nice stave from dark osage, very dense wood. Nearly flawless, only some marginal pin knots. Bad thing was it was very crooked and twisted, so it needed some time and several sessions to bring it line and balance. At handle section an additionally ring allows a nicer curve and more comfort to grip.
She has string grooves for safety (prevent string slipping).
Tip overlays and arrow pass is a combo from buffalo horn and bone. Handle is stingray leather.

dw/dl:   44#/27”
ntn:    60”
bh:    6”
max. w.:   1½“

reflexn:   3½”

mass:   535 gram

asymmetrical
stiff handle





08”:   05,0
10”:   10,9   (+5,9)
12”:   15,4   (+4,5)
14”:   19,4   (+4,0)
16”:   23,3   (+3,9)
18”:   26,9   (+3,6)
20”:   30,6   (+3,7)
22”:   34,1   (+3,5)
24”:   37,8   (+3,7)
26”:   41,7   (+3,9)
27”:   43,7   (+2,0)


(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-2-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-3-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-4-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-5-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-6-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-7-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-8-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-9-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-10-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-11-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-12-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-13-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-14-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-15-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-16-von-17.jpeg)

(http://primitive-bows.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Osage-recurve-for-LJ-17-von-17.jpeg)





Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: bjrogg on September 09, 2021, 07:45:41 am
Love the profiles of this one Simson. Really sweet bend.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Eric Krewson on September 09, 2021, 09:36:33 am
Your work is always amazing!
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: bentstick54 on September 09, 2021, 09:43:24 am
Another beauty.  Very, very nice.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Parnell on September 09, 2021, 10:15:52 am
Mary Poppins bow right there...practically perfect in every way.

Your stingray handle is capturing my attention.  Is the seam of its wrap on the belly and what are you using as an adhesive?
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Pat B on September 09, 2021, 10:20:39 am
What can I say!   :OK
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Don W on September 09, 2021, 01:49:14 pm
As close to perfect as it gets!
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simk on September 09, 2021, 03:40:25 pm
wow  (-S love that bow!
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Mad Max on September 09, 2021, 03:58:11 pm
Can you guy's see the pictures :fp
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Will B on September 09, 2021, 03:59:34 pm
That bow is really amazing. Beautiful profile and bend. I really like the shape of your fades with the center ridge line on the belly. Does that extend much beyond the fades?  Thanks for posting your work here!
Will B
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: bjrogg on September 09, 2021, 09:23:07 pm
Can you guy's see the pictures :fp

Yup and they are very nice pictures too.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: NTD on September 09, 2021, 10:54:18 pm
That is a beautiful bow! Well done!
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: bownarra on September 10, 2021, 02:57:09 am
Perfect tiller.....dude you make some sweet bows.....there aren't many bows I see that are as stylish as yours. Really top class :)
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 10, 2021, 10:18:22 am
Thanks folks, I really appreciate every comment!

Mary Poppins bow right there...practically perfect in every way.

Your stingray handle is capturing my attention.  Is the seam of its wrap on the belly and what are you using as an adhesive?

Steve, the seem is on the belly ridge. It is glued on with TB 3 after soaking severeal hours (this leather is very tough!), wrapped with textile rubber strap. It was glued on with excess, before the glue was completely dry cut with a very sharp knife trough both leather overlapping, add some more glue at the seem area and wrap again. The result is a very good seem, near invisible.
PS: I have sanded a bit over the whole black leather to get the bone pearls a bit highlighted.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Mad Max on September 10, 2021, 10:36:29 am
Beautiful bow ;)
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Rowan Bows on September 10, 2021, 04:08:47 pm
I really like the fadeouts. In a dead spot you can do whatever you want but this is a really good idea of design
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 11, 2021, 03:55:30 am
That bow is really amazing. Beautiful profile and bend. I really like the shape of your fades with the center ridge line on the belly. Does that extend much beyond the fades?  Thanks for posting your work here!
Will B

Sorry, I forgot to answer ...
On this bow the center ridge fades out with the fades.
I also have made lot of bows with ridges over the entire limbs.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Will B on September 11, 2021, 06:48:08 pm
Thanks Stimson. I’d like to try that on a future bow. That’s a real beauty!
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Gimlis Ghost on September 11, 2021, 11:27:54 pm
Can you guy's see the pictures :fp
Right click on the tiny icon in the upper left hand corner and choose open image in separate tab.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Rowan Bows on September 12, 2021, 02:37:00 pm
What did you use for coating? looks already so dark - danish oil?
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 12, 2021, 04:35:06 pm
This was one of several staves of very dark osage staves, as mentioned above (natural color).
My finish is a home brewed hardening oil, made out of linsed oil, carnauba wax, orange oil and some other ingredients. I make 8 coatings with 1 day drying inbetween on all of my bows.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Hawkdancer on September 13, 2021, 02:11:26 pm
A most impressive bow!  You do excellent work, and I hope it inspires rather than intimidates others to follow your examples!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 13, 2021, 04:48:06 pm
A most impressive bow!  You do excellent work, and I hope it inspires rather than intimidates others to follow your examples!
Hawkdancer


I do hope that my work is inspiring to others. In no way do I want to intimidate anyone, I don't think there is anyone here (at least I hope not) who intends to do so.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: PaSteve on September 16, 2021, 05:34:55 pm
Simon, your work is impeccable. Another beautiful bow.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Selfbowman on September 18, 2021, 11:02:09 am
Simson that’s a beauty! I like the recurves. I’ve got one that I need to flatten the hooks on a bit. Can I copy that part?😁the rest I could not copy anyway.😁Arvin
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 20, 2021, 01:14:52 pm
Simson that’s a beauty! I like the recurves. I’ve got one that I need to flatten the hooks on a bit. Can I copy that part?😁the rest I could not copy anyway.😁Arvin

I'm honored if my bows are inspiration for you.
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: bradsmith2010 on September 21, 2021, 02:00:20 pm
beautiful, congrats :D
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Selfbowman on September 23, 2021, 05:56:27 pm

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Sorry, I forgot to answer ...
On this bow the center ridge fades out with the fades.
I also have made lot of bows with ridges over the entire limbs.
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Simson do you find any real advantage of the ridge vs. a rounded belly? Arvin
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Badger on September 23, 2021, 11:31:23 pm
 That is a beautiful bow!
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: lebhuntfish on September 24, 2021, 05:00:40 am
I always love seeing your bows, your till is a thing of beauty. You are a true artist and a craftsman sir!

Patrick
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: simson on September 24, 2021, 06:02:34 am
.......
Simson do you find any real advantage of the ridge vs. a rounded belly? Arvin

Arvin, I have seen such edges but also furrows on several historic bows. I think they were very special bows, for example, ritual bows or perhaps bows for outstanding personalities.
I cannot see any particular advantage over rounded cross-sections (except perhaps marginal mass savings). It is just more or less an aesthetic touch. I'm sure not every bowwood is suitable for that, but with osage we can do everything ...
Title: Re: Osage recurve for LJ 44#/27” (No. 120)
Post by: Selfbowman on September 24, 2021, 09:13:08 am
Ok reduction in mass could make a difference. I’ll have to try one. The bow is a beauty by the way .