Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Fox on September 27, 2021, 03:13:58 pm
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I知 about to put some horn tip overlays on a bow and am wondering what glue, usually I just use CA glue but maybe I should use something else? Not an English longbow style tip, just an overlay on the back.
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I think a good epoxy glue is a good choice....
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I've used gel super glue, TBIII and 2ton epoxy with good results.
Are you talking horn or antler?
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I知 talking horn. I think I値l use Tb2
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I知 talking horn. I think I値l use Tb2
No! Just use quality superglue. No need to use anything else.
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High viscosity superglue is what I use. I have used epoxy in the past and had one slip off.
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Smooth on AD-40
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I use gorilla glue on mine ..just did a bow last night.. cedar boo.. laid a thin piece of cedar under antler.. Its all I have ever used and knock on wood no issues yet ..gut
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Hmm maybe I should have come back and read this before just doing it :fp (lol)
I usually use CA glue but this bow isn't for me and I wanted to be certain it would stay on..... sooo... will TB2 work? or should I take it off and re-do?
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TBII is stronger than TBIII and I've used TBIII for horn overlays.
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if you already glued them on I wouldn't mess with them.. gut
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Titebond is a WOOD glue :) It may work but is definately not meant ofr gluing horn. Horn is nothing like wood! As I said above a quality superglue is what you want. I've probably done around 600 sets of overlays.....quality superglue is the way to go :)
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Okay, next time ill just use superglue. ;D. It seems to have worked fine I was a bit ruff on the tip to make sure it would stay on and it seemed pretty good.
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I have used quality ca glue with proper preparation and have had about 4 tips pop off years later. I only use tb3 now with no issues so far.
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I知 talking horn. I think I値l use Tb2
No! Just use quality superglue. No need to use anything else.
This bowanarra knows everything. Arvin
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I知 talking horn. I think I値l use Tb2
No! Just use quality superglue. No need to use anything else.
This bowanarra knows everything. Arvin
Well I have made over 600 bows, with overlays on the majority of them. So yes I do know about overlays and most things bow making. you tend to pick up a thing or two when you do something for your living over many years......If I didn't know the answers to these questions I wouldn't waste peoples time. Is that ok?
I could give a truely comprehensive answer on the pro and cons of most glue types for this application but..........whats the point! Few listen and peoples ego's can get in the way haha.
Rps3 - well you did something wrong then didn't you! Are you trying to say that tb2 is made to glue horn to wood? It isn't! Ask Titebond! Horn is quite adifferent material.....as I said above it may work but isn't optimal. Without seeing how you prepared your tip overlays that 'came off' I can't offer more than guesses at why they failed. There are a few possible reasons why if you would like me to go into it. When a proven method fails it is normally a better idea to go through your procedure and find out what you have done incorrectly rather than just sack off the method ;)
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Just to keep it primitive I like hide/sinew glue. To do it right it takes a couple days of thin glue sizing, then a couple weeks to dry. With super glue you can shoot the next day. However I would hold hide glue superior long term after years of shooting.
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Bownarra, I'm not trying to say anything other than relaying my experience with ca glue and horn tips. I've had failures with ca glue, and none with tight bond. I very well may have done something wrong with ca glue, but tightbond hasnt let me down yet.
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So far (in 25 years) I have tried different adhesives for everything. I have glued tip overlays with superglue, with epoxy glue and also with wood glue (for hardwood overlays) and I also have fixed the overlays wirh pins through the Horn and the wood. I have had failures with superglue and also with epoxy, especially with very small overlays. With superglue, however, I had significantly more problems.... so I recommended epoxy for the combination of wood with horn. May be I have not used the right super glue?
P.S. if you upholster the strings in the ears properly, you can do without tipoverlays especially with the harder woods such as Osage, Hickory, etc..
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Your all talking about super glue, but there are dozens of different forms of cyanoacrylate, the adhesive ingredient.
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Had to many add on handles pop off the bow with tb3. I would re glue with AD-40, and never had a problem. From then on I use AD-40 for handle glue up, and horn tip over lays. Never looked back, and no more problems. Works best for me.