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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on October 07, 2021, 01:29:08 pm
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This bow came from a saved splinter with almost the dimensions it has now. So it looks a bit weird as it is in some sections narrower than it should be, the good thing is I had enough wood to react on the bellyside. All I had to scrape off was a handful flakes. I had some bows and blancs prepared for fuming (I do always 5-8 at one time), this was one of them.
Before fuming (one week), the stick got a salt treatment (I cannot remember tablesalt or borax).
Some little heat corrections and some untwisting brought the thing in balance.
Cross section is a wavy, but more or less flat back and a half round belly. So I call it not a plains type, just stick bow instead.
The stave had some cracks (mostly along the grain), I filled them with super glue after the fuming process (otherwise the ammonia attacks the glue). The fuming brought a super smooth surface and belonging to the light that stick looks sometimes black as night and gets warm browns when the sun hits. Hard to show that in photos.
She has pin nocks and just a brass nail as arrow marker.
I dispensed with a handle wrapping because of the really beautiful colors.
dw/dl: 44#/23
ntn: 47
bh: 4
max. w.: 1
reflexi: 1½
reflexn: ½
mass: 302 gram
symmetrical
bendyhandle
06: 05,7
08: 09,7 (+4,0)
10: 13,4 (+3,7)
12: 16,9 (+3,5)
14: 21,0 (+4,1)
16: 25,2 (+4,2)
18: 29,7 (+4,5)
20: 34,5 (+4,8)
22: 40,0 (+5,5)
23: 43,6 (+3,6)
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Simon you can make a functioning bow out of anything. Well done. Do you tiller Even and stop When the force draw drops? And thats the draw length. Your no set bows are impressive. Arvin
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Yep Simon can make a functional bow out of anything. I would add beautiful as well. So it is possible to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Love those nocks, and the fumed finish too. Outstanding as always.
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What a cool looking little stickbow. Your work is always impressive. That fume is icing on the cake. Beautiful bow.
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Stunning as always. I bet even more beautiful in person.
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Very nice effect with the fume. Also what is this salt treatment you speak of???
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Simon you can make a functioning bow out of anything. Well done. Do you tiller Even and stop When the force draw drops? And thats the draw length. Your no set bows are impressive. Arvin
Arvin the numbers may be a bit irritating because I measure usually every two inches. Here is the last step only one inch from 22 to 23" this is why you might think draw weight drops (but it doesn't). For me draw length is a thing of feeling, I'm not really sure what determines the final length. Of course I wanna avoid set and I think I can feel when a bow says it's enough.
No set bows:
I have read Steve's statement about no set tillering, it was very enlightening for me (thanks Mr. Badger).
I myself find it very helpful (set avoiding) not to bend a bow before you are very very close to final dimensions. So I do very precisly my measurements. Usually I do no floor tillering at all, or sometimes very little. I'm aiming to brace a bow at low height and start here the tiller process. This is sometimes done within 15 minutes and only a handful scraps are necessary. I found the less scrapes the more set avoiding.
Well this bow took one inch set. As written in my data I started with an initial reflex (reflexi) of 1½ and came out with a netto reflex (reflexn) of ½. Not too bad, but one inch set.
Very nice effect with the fume. Also what is this salt treatment you speak of???
The bow got a coating with a salt solution. I have experimented with different salts 8table salt, borax, and others) and got different effects on the fuming. I enjoy these experiments, but I should make more data sheets, hahaha.
Thanks Gents!
I appreciate your commnets!
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Beautiful Simson. So glad to see all the bows you have been posting lately. They are always top shelf and inspirational and tillered to perfection
Bjrogg
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a beauty like always Simon. as BJ said: glad to see your bows
Hans
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Interesting! I've fumed walnut before but never a bow. I think I may need to get a couple oak staves, oak takes fuming well.
That is a great looking bow. It Ηertainly has character.
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You inspire, sir.
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Hi simson, im having a problem that your pictures dont show up on anny of your posts, i dont have the problem by annybody else. And as i see all the great reactions i would really like to see them
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Another beauty, love the character in that one. For sure 1 of a kind. :)
Pappy
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Not much bow goes to waste around your shop, Simon and you make it beautiful. 8) :OK
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Hi simson, im having a problem that your pictures dont show up on anny of your posts, i dont have the problem by annybody else. And as i see all the great reactions i would really like to see them
Sorry, but I dunno know why. Perhaps you will see them when using another medium, phone, tablet, pc, ...
I'm no computer freak :(
Easiest way is, to go to my site and look there, pics and texting is the same.
Not much bow goes to waste around your shop, Simon and you make it beautiful. 8) :OK
Yeah, I was lucky the last time and produced only little firewood :)
a beauty like always Simon. as BJ said: glad to see your bows
Hans
Hi Hans, nice to meet you here!
Thanks everybody for leaving a comment!
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The fuming looks superb :) Love the colours and can tell it would be even better in the hand and sunlight.
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Love the color and character of that stickbow. Amazing what you can make out of an osage splinter. Thanks for posting your work here. Very inspirational!
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OK, someone enlighten a naοve semi-newbie: What does "fumed" mean?
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OK, someone enlighten a naοve semi-newbie: What does "fumed" mean?
Please look here: http://primitive-bows.com/fuming-experiments/
If you do it yourself: be careful, the ammonia attacks skin and eyes! After fuming, allow a week or so to get the damps out of the wood.
Thanks again Gents, I'm glad you like her.
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OK, someone enlighten a naοve semi-newbie: What does "fumed" mean?
Please look here: http://primitive-bows.com/fuming-experiments/
If you do it yourself: be careful, the ammonia attacks skin and eyes! After fuming, allow a week or so to get the damps out of the wood.
Thanks again Gents, I'm glad you like her.
OK, thanks. Really interesting and a really cool look.