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Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: BowEd on February 15, 2022, 07:34:00 am

Title: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: BowEd on February 15, 2022, 07:34:00 am
They are doubled soled mocs.
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Repaired.
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Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: bjrogg on February 15, 2022, 08:45:14 am
Those look really comfy Ed. And by the wear I’m thinking you agree.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: Pat B on February 15, 2022, 10:38:59 am
Back in the early 1970's I had a pair of ankle high, lace up mocs made by Walter Dyer. I wore either them or the sandles I made all the time. I don't know where they went though. Yours look quite comfortable.
The guy I learned leather work from in Savannah learned from Walter Dyer and DD Holiday from Jacksonville, Fla. Together these two guys used to make dance shows for Isadora Duncan back in the 1920's and 30's. The sandles we made back then came out of the Bohemian era by these two guys.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: BowEd on February 15, 2022, 12:42:20 pm
Carl Dyer and sons made mine.They call them Carl Dyers' Orignals.They sold a lot of them to buckskinners.I acquired mine back in the early 1980's.Back then I bought this pair for $70.00.They are now around $400.00.They are located in Friendship,Indiana.
Back then their sales pitch was since our mocs are double soled with 1/4" thick layers anytime you wear out 1 layer they would resole it for nothing but the shipping.
Not so any more as there is a charge along with the shipping but still a lot less to resole than buying new.
Took me close to 40 years to wear through the first thickness of sole.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: Pat B on February 15, 2022, 01:38:08 pm
Yeah, I think Walter Dyer was in Massachusetts back then. I guess they are related. I have no idea what my mocs cost back then.
 When we made sandles we'd replace the leather soles for the cost of materials and shipping. I had a black friend that was a shrimper. He wore his sandles always and I would replace the leather soles once a year. Another customer was a barber and I'd replace his once every 2 years. When I'd take the old leather soles off a ton of hair would fall out. The leather soles were cobbled with brass clinch nails, not sewn back then.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: chamookman on February 16, 2022, 03:42:22 am
Have a Pair just like Yours Ed for at least 25 years. Can't wear 'Em out, used to bout live in them. Still wear them once in a while. Have a Pair of Poppin's Pucker Toes now, got them around 5 years ago - most confortable I've ever had! Bob
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: BowEd on February 16, 2022, 04:50:18 am
Yes I've got Poppins' brochure too.They look like some nice ones' too only cheaper priced.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: Pappy on February 16, 2022, 08:30:23 am
Nice save ED, did you repair them or have them done, Tom from Poppins comes to the Classic and I have a couple of pairs of them[high top and low cut] I wear the quite often but in the hills and hollows with leaves they are pretty slick so have to be careful when out for a hike, wished their was a way to fix that  ??? because they are really comfortable to wear.
 Pappy
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: Pat B on February 16, 2022, 10:43:39 am
Pappy, you could probably glue a thin piece of crepe rubber to the bottoms to add more traction.  When I was making sandles we started making them with crepe bottoms because the leather bottoms were so slick when they got wet. Totally different construction types for sandles with leather and crepe soles.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: BowEd on February 16, 2022, 03:47:09 pm
I've seen a pair or two of the Poppins' mocs.Nice mocs.Still not as heavy duty as the dyers though.
It's reflected in their pricing too.
With the Dyers there's a breaking in period wearing them.Best to walk through a creek with them on.Then wear them dry.
The occasional slickness I've had with them has'nt bothered me much.
I had them sew it up.Looking at it I probably could have done it myself too.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: Gimlis Ghost on February 16, 2022, 05:16:15 pm
I had a pair of mocasins many years ago that had similar elk hide soles. The leather was so tough that stepping on a tack simply curled the point of the tack.
Title: Re: Got my dyer mocs repaired
Post by: BowEd on February 16, 2022, 07:57:07 pm
With these Dyers there is two 1/4" thick layers on the sole.