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Title: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: backtowood B2W on May 15, 2022, 05:59:52 am
I have some thoughts about tiller on HLD bows: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,71410.0.html
I don´t want to mix up this thread so I made a extra thread for presentation.

I had some problems in the build which could be solved at least:

1. I wanted a 50#@28 - 66“ maybe a bit longer would’ve been better. I dropped it to 42#@27“ - 66“

2. Braced it to early, the sidewall were too uneven and I got 3 frets in the inner limb close to fade. Did some surgery alla Eric Krewson and implanted a fresh piece of wood with epoxy. Worked out great, thanx man! Hard to see with the paint job so I marked a blue line close to the glueline. This limb was supposed to be the upper, but became the lower, this laminates stiffens it out a bit.

3. A fret towards a little pin hole was taken care off with epoxy and a wrapping of flax. Elderberry Saplings grow somehow like bamboo with clean intersections between branches. I painted the same pattern in orange on the other knots. The Pattern between I painted with tung oil .
 
When drying I cut off almost half of the sapling and made a cut in the grip to prevent drying checks. The cutting slot I filled with a piece of Black Locust to stiff out the grip.
Fingernail shaped overlays made off buff horn for the nocks. A cotton wool cord wrapping for the handle.
To get this artifact look I first painted the Pattern in orange with pigments and wood glue on the Knots. The pattern in yellow is painted with tung oil. Than I sprayed a desolving of steel wool in vinegar, on it. More layers toward the tips and handle. Some black leather dye for touch ups.
Was a quick and dirty paintjob but it looks quite authentic.
Max. width is 1 7/16“ which is the original width of the stave in the handle area.
Unbracing after shooting it have 18mm of string follow which returns to 4mm when resting.
The original profile was perfectly straight, so I’m very happy, I can still look through that hole in the handle which is the orig. pith of the sap.
Thanx for watching!
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: backtowood B2W on May 15, 2022, 06:01:53 am
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Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: backtowood B2W on May 15, 2022, 06:02:55 am
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Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: backtowood B2W on May 15, 2022, 06:03:51 am
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Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: Hamish on May 15, 2022, 07:12:01 am
Damn! That is one fancy bow. Well done.
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: BowEd on May 15, 2022, 08:10:43 am
Agreed.A lot of patience went into this handle work alone.Looks like you lightened up the outer limbs tips nicely too.
Basically like said earlier about tiller wood needs a streamlined equally strained look to it.
Looks like you accomplished this.
Congrats on a very nice bow.
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: superdav95 on May 15, 2022, 08:35:54 am
Super nice bow.  Love the detailed work put into this bow.  This is on my list of bows to try soon.  I’ve got a nice hhb sapling to use that’s been drying over a year.  We shall see.   Good patience and Great bow!   
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: RyanY on May 15, 2022, 09:25:09 am
Man that is gorgeous!   (A)
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: paulc on May 15, 2022, 09:33:02 am
Really cool...
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: simk on May 15, 2022, 11:19:54 am
you are just blessed with that artistic talent  (-S watching your bows I feel like a lumberjack  )-w(
And you have a talented camera too and epoxy is magic  ;)
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: bassman211 on May 15, 2022, 01:15:22 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: bradsmith2010 on May 15, 2022, 02:08:36 pm
congrats  :)
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: TimmyDeNorCal on May 15, 2022, 04:15:55 pm
Very nice bow. Looks like it is a few centuries old already (and in a good way, that is!)
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: backtowood B2W on May 16, 2022, 06:34:48 am
Thank you all!
you are just blessed with that artistic talent  (-S watching your bows I feel like a lumberjack  )-w(
And you have a talented camera too and epoxy is magic  ;)
The paint job was quite easy, Simons have a good description of doing this on his website, I used tung oil instead of shellac. The oil bleeds out on the wood which gives you that blurry look. My camera loves the 1.8/50 lens for unfocusing background  :OK
Agreed.A lot of patience went into this handle work alone.Looks like you lightened up the outer limbs tips nicely too.
Basically like said earlier about tiller wood needs a streamlined equally strained look to it.
Looks like you accomplished this.
Congrats on a very nice bow.
Good eyes! Yes the tips got a bit narrowed for string alignment.
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: Stixnstones on May 16, 2022, 09:26:33 pm
Are you freaking kidding me? I just can't compliment you enough on such an amazing work of art.... beautiful job
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: bownarra on May 17, 2022, 01:06:29 am
Not bad ;)
elder is a surprising wood. Try it heat treated and flat bellied with a sinew back....
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: Pappy on May 20, 2022, 07:28:52 am
Beautiful work, that's all I got,Wow Just beautiful. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: Selfbowman on July 11, 2022, 08:05:12 pm
Well done!
Title: Re: Elderberry Semi HLD 66"ntn 42#@27"
Post by: Weylin on July 12, 2022, 03:55:56 pm
Fantastic! Love everything about it
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Post by: wooddamon1 on July 13, 2022, 03:01:41 pm
Wow!