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Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: BowEd on June 23, 2022, 12:23:00 pm

Title: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 23, 2022, 12:23:00 pm
.....and so it begins.These are deer shot last fall and winter.3 with a self bow [1 buck and 2 does] and 1 [a doe] later in the winter with a .54 muzzleloader.I need to make room in the freezer for all the vegetables from the garden that'll go in the freezer this fall.The meat of 250+ pounds from these deer helps to relieve the cost of food these days.
I'll start out doing the largest hide first.A buck.Got it fleshed to dry down.There's a good 18 square feet in this one.

(https://i.imgur.com/ETCQDhJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BExMLXh.jpg)
Here's where he came from.He was shot in late november last year.Very healthy and still had a fair amount of tallow on him yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/6exqcSJ.jpg)
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Buckskinner on June 23, 2022, 03:50:26 pm
A nice quartering shot too! Are you brain tanning?
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 23, 2022, 04:18:37 pm
Yep.He took care of himself pretty well.Not too many scars.
Sure like the knock down ability of a 2 blade arrow when placed in the right place compared to any other way of putting a deer down.
I'm sure there will be minor barbed wire scars showing on the hair side later after dehairing,but no major punctures through the groin or punctures from fighting other bucks or misplaced shots from the past taken at him.
I've seen evidence of all of that plenty of times in the past.
Scars are character anyway.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: bjrogg on June 23, 2022, 08:31:13 pm
Always enjoy watching you work hides Ed.

You do very nice work and I always pick up some ideas.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 24, 2022, 07:00:23 am
He's got the potential size for a full length pants pipe.Got a mate to him [same size and age] already done to match him.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Pappy on June 24, 2022, 08:13:52 am
Looking good Ed, way to hot and humid here to think about brain tanning, wished our weather here was better here this time of year but winter and early spring seems to be the best time for us. looking forward to watching you though. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 24, 2022, 09:16:31 am
Convenient weather is something I look for too.The brain tanning process of steps to do leaves these variables easy to adjust to.
Gotta pay attention to the weather forecast.It's not crucial but it makes the job done better and easier on a person too.
There is'nt anything I hav'nt learned over the last 40 years to make it easier or better.It's a simple but not easy to some process that puts out a superior product naturally for garments,bags,and accoutraments.
Like to get these hides dried down during a sunny and hot low humidity period for good dry scrape hair removal.
Then a period of 75 to 80 degree weather with a light breeze for roping after braining.Going in and out of the shade during the process.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: White Falcon on June 24, 2022, 02:18:47 pm
Lots of work there.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 24, 2022, 02:22:32 pm
Yes but enjoyable work also.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Pappy on June 26, 2022, 06:19:04 pm
For sure the right kind of weather makes it easier, still tough work but very satisfying work, at least is is for me. it's like a lot of things we do, making bow/home made arrows and many other things, some of us love it but it's not for everybody. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 26, 2022, 08:23:34 pm
True.You get what you put into something.To do a nice job a person should not get in a hurry.The diligence will reward you.
The reason I mentioned scars is that a person has to look out for them while dry scrape dehairing a hide.Especially in the flanks on a deer.Barbed wire marks down the back side rarely concern me much because they are not that deep.Catching deep ones the wrong way with too much pressure can and will make a large hole especially in the flanks.
I use different width/very sharp mill bastard scrapers in different areas of a hide.
Sometimes in the flanks your almost better off to sand away the epidermis in thinner flank areas on smaller deer.
Larger hides on larger animals will have thicker epidermis also.Requiring more than 1 scrape to remove it all.Usually in the neck,spine and hip areas.
I give my hides an overall sanding of at least 80 grit to be sure all epidermis is removed.I sand the flesh side also to be sure all membrane is removed too.
After this preparing I'm confident then the brain oils will have every opportunity to penetrate the leather.

This hide I'm doing now is a wonderful hide.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 27, 2022, 08:43:24 am
Another point is the weather I'd like to expand about.Like said earlier dehairing during low humidity periods does a cleaner job IMO.
The epidermis like the leather is subject to absorbing humidity.Higher humidity will make the epidermis more rubbery like,which can lead to the scraper chattering somewhat and not do as clean of a job.Assuming that your scraper is sharp also.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 30, 2022, 01:30:34 pm
The second hide is ready for brains.It was a late season muzzle loader deer shot with a johnathon browning .54.
(https://i.imgur.com/Qh8kEE9.jpg)
Laying on brain tanned elk hide.
(https://i.imgur.com/jQUp3lw.jpg)
The coyotes ate a little into the exit wound of the ball and the hide is around 10 square foot.Plenty enough yet for the front or back of a shirt.
Anytime coyotes get in there they damage a bit of the hide.It was around 5 below 0 F. that morning.
(https://i.imgur.com/mwPnYFW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/uYwwTkj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4T1ETR9.jpg)
Onto the third hide.This one is about 15 square foot.An old doe.
(https://i.imgur.com/VmgvFHj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/m6aXGpi.jpg)
Here's where she came from last fall.A good quartering away shot.
(https://i.imgur.com/y90RiQh.jpg)
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Will B on June 30, 2022, 02:08:34 pm
Looking good Ed!  Can I see a picture of the scraper you use?  I made some rawhide out of a buck I shot last fall and Iím looking for better ways to remove the membrane to get it thinner.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 30, 2022, 03:39:22 pm
Main thing on a scraper is the blade mounting it at a 90 degree angle onto a stick or horn.If it's membrane than it's on the flesh side.
Here's a flesher [wider one] that I use mounted onto elk horn.Be sure to round the corners on the blade.
The blade is a piece of a cracked farming disk blade which I cut out from a disk blade with a torch.I did heat it red and dunk into some 10 weight oil to harden it farther after beveling it [about a 30 degree angle].A fleshing blade can be a little wider than a dehairing blade,but still very sharp.I only have one for fleshing.You can put a great amount of pressure on a framed in hide while fleshing to get every bit of membrane off.
The other is mounted onto elk horn too and it's blade is a chunk of mill basterd file.No reheating done on that.It's hard enough the way it is.These will hold an edge completely through doing a normal deer hide.
(https://i.imgur.com/Xbulu9S.jpg)
For a  good edge for dehairing I sharpen mine with a stone.It does'nt take very long to get a good sharp edge.
(https://i.imgur.com/qdNoWJf.jpg)
Taking around 1/4" wide strip off at a time for dehairing is about the right width.Trying to take too wide of a strip will not work very well.
(https://i.imgur.com/lRb9Z7V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/C1VopM4.jpg)
I keep various different width scrapers for different jobs on areas on a hide while removing the epidermis.
(https://i.imgur.com/ikVGfwW.jpg)
Hedge with the sapwood removed.
(https://i.imgur.com/WEBHPBL.jpg)
This one is only 1/2" wide for delicate areas of the flank on deer.
(https://i.imgur.com/C25wXwp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/E6dxGhJ.jpg)
Mounted onto a piece of hedge.
(https://i.imgur.com/qqXdZCY.jpg)
Mounted onto a pine dowel.
(https://i.imgur.com/EOl5jyQ.jpg)
The best type of deer rawhide to use for backing a bow is these yearling deer or goat hides,or maybe the belly of a buck should work ok.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Will B on June 30, 2022, 05:02:02 pm
Thanks for the detailed photos Ed.  Those are really well made scrapers.  I can see Iíve been using too wide of a scraper. I will be making a couple like yours before this fall.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on June 30, 2022, 07:10:45 pm
OK...Show me  what you come up with for a scraper.I would of sent you a scraper if I'd known you were in need of one.I have sent them to other members before showing interest in brain tanning.
Right now I'm dehairing this big doe which is being tougher to get done than the larger buck I did.
It's taking quite a few strokes to get every bit of epidermis and hair roots off.
In the thinner areas its wise not to push too hard and look out for any scars along the way.
Some deer can be like that.Older deer many times can have thicker epidermis.That's why a very sharp dehairing blade is needed.Takes the epidermis off narrow enough without much pressure.
After all is dehaired though I usually give it a good sanding to be sure.I don't like to use any more coarse of sand paper than 60 grit on deer.Usually 80 grit is used.
Thicker hided animals like elk,buffalo,and beef 40 grit can be used on them.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Will B on July 02, 2022, 07:04:49 pm
Ed, I used a fleshing knife on a fleshing beam my buddy let me use. It worked really well on the flesh side of the hide. I then soaked my hides in lye (made from wood ashes) and then scraped the hides with the fleshing knife.  I then put the hides on a frame to dry.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 03, 2022, 06:19:59 am
Ahhhh yes.I've fleshed and dehaired them that way before too after fleshing them good on the same beam.Makes for a smooth hair side surface.Many quillers and bead workers like that type of surface to work on.They usually call that the wet scrape method.Just like fleshing a coon.
Here's a picture of my beam fleshing tool.I've had this tool for 40 years.The outside 2" on each end are sharp while leaving the center 10" to 12" dull.
(https://i.imgur.com/QwBTlW7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UdDJfJI.jpg)
A semi dull scraper in that case is the best to use.One that you can run your finger across length wise with no fear of cutting yourself.Many times just a good soaking in water is enough.Don't even need to lime it and then delime and rinse it.

Frankly the flank leathers' usefullness is'nt much more than used as fringe anyway.Very thin and very stretchy.

I've removed those slight peppered hair root remanants before after dry scraping by soaking the hide in water and using a dull fleshing knife on a beam too.Then if the brains are ready I brain it and rope it dry right then without reframing it.
Dry scraping leaves a fuzzier surface.

Finished the stubborn to remove hair roots on the older big doe up with a lot of sanding.Nice smooth surface then too when finished.Used to do that by hand.Nowadays I use a palm or orbital sander.Suprisingly I used 40 grit on that doe and it worked.Right around 13 to 14 square foot there.Should end up with at least 10 square feet of brain tan from this one.Perfect for shirts and such,or even a shorter legged full lengthed pants pipe.Notice how narrower the necks are on these does.
(https://i.imgur.com/WmakiF0.jpg)
1 more 1 and 1/2 year old doe to do and then I'll start braining and roping them all dry.



Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 03, 2022, 08:53:26 am
Got this 1 and 1/2 year old doe framed and fleshed this nice cool morning.
Sidenote....It's always nice getting up at dawn in the summer.Many songbirds rekindle their mating rituals with song ready to raise another hatch and the woods sound pretty nice.
This doe was one that squirted right underneath my stand running away from a buck and I spine shot her.Less than 5 yards beneath me.She dropped on the spot.
Very nice clean hide.Free of scars.
(https://i.imgur.com/RuoMogH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JN24InH.jpg)
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 03, 2022, 01:13:34 pm
After letting the hide set in the 85 degree F. sun 4 to 5 hours the hide is well on it's way to getting dry and dry enough to sand.Not much membrane will be taken off if the fleshing was done properly.Usually remnants by the edges of the hide,but I still give it an overall sanding.
Picture will show the beginning of the sanding.
I use 80 grit sanding disk on my orbital sander.This serves 2 purposes.Getting rid of every bit of membrane and raising the nap of the rawhide to accept brain oils.
I then turn it over to the sun on the hair side.Letting it dry further through the afternoon.
(https://i.imgur.com/KisKP3L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FzaHUOA.jpg)
This is the time table for a 1 and 1/2 year old doe of about 10 square feet.Larger thicker hides will take slightly longer as well as yearling deer under 1 year old will take less time yet.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Buckskinner on July 03, 2022, 03:38:55 pm
Very interesting topic.  I think I might give this a go, usually I donate my hides or trade for a pair of gloves.   Used to be able to trade for a nice pair of leather choppers or gloves, now they give a cheap pair of gloves made in china, so not worth the trip.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 03, 2022, 05:50:28 pm
That is a good option too.At times I used to use a company in Minnesota [Huber glove company] send me a few pairs of deer hide gloves and mittens from my hides also.They made a neat mitten called the 1 finger mitten that I still use to this day while hunting or driving tractor.Nothing like deer skin gloves.
They are chrome tanned and dyed a light tan.
(https://i.imgur.com/13yiC4R.jpg)
After another 4 to 5 hours of drying this hide is already ready to be dehaired.The first place to check if the epidermis is dry enough is at the thickest part.The mid section neck.If it's dry there it'll be dry everywhere else.
It's best to let it dry a little extra amount of time to be sure.It can make the job easier."Beware of scars".
(https://i.imgur.com/MfojbcN.jpg)
In times past I've demonstrated at town celebrations,rendezvous's,and bow making gatherings deer hides taken at dawn and had soft brain tan leather by dusk.Smoking them in the tipi into the dark to finish them up or smoking them the very next day.


Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: bjrogg on July 03, 2022, 05:53:19 pm
Itís definitely a labor of love Buckskinner. I hope you give it a try. Youíve got the right username for it to.

It really does produce a beautiful product. I take a couple of my brain tanned hides with me when I do presentations. People are alway surprised at how soft and subtle they are. They have a very hard time believing that I tanned them with the brains of the animals I got the hides from.


Of course Ed is really good at it and makes it look pretty easy. Truthfully itís a lot of work and some people might even think itís kinda messy. Like Ed I find working hides very rewarding. Otherwise I would just send them out to have someone else do them.lol

Thanks again for posting Ed. You really do some beautiful work

Bjrogg
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Yooper Bowyer on July 03, 2022, 07:13:05 pm
I really only found it messy when I think of it as dead animal parts from the woods.  The yuck factor goes way down when you look at it as meat and wet dog chew -- which of course it is.  :D 

It is definitely very labor-intensive.  I agree that BowEd does make it look easy.  I wish I had the time, space, tools, and materials to do it right...  :-\
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 03, 2022, 07:37:03 pm
I've never needed to convince myself of anything else other than it's a resource.A replenishable one at that over the last 50+ years.
Things get easier the more you do them.Taking less time.

Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: bjrogg on July 03, 2022, 09:53:03 pm
Iím sure they do Ed. I know I have picked up lots of ideas from watching you post. Iím sure I would pick up a bunch more from watching you do the whole process in person. I can tell you have been using this renewable resource for many years.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 04, 2022, 12:01:03 am
Noone took the time to show me besides looking at a book.I figured things out pretty much on my own.I've seen different versions of getting the job done though later.
At 1 rendezvous at New Ulm,Minnesota I saw the prarie wolf.....John Mcphearson do a hide.He heated his brains up with hot rocks in a deer hide hung from a tri pod,just to show how primitively it could be done.
The breakdown of time totals to around 8 hours into each hide.With the whole process not needing to be done all at once.You can pick and choose when time is available to do the steps leaving days inbetween them if you like.
Frame and fleshing takes around 1 hour.Sanding 15 minutes.
Dehairing takes around 3 hours.Sanding 15 minutes.
Braining and stretching around 1 hour.
Roping dry around 3 hours depending on size of hide.


Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 04, 2022, 08:48:05 am
Getting hotter again every day.4th of July today.Happy Independance Day!!!!!I'm not one to buy any fireworks.No kids around.Many pops and booms going on around me though in the distance.
I'll try to finish up this hide today dehairing.Slight chance of rain with it getting more humid.Rain looks like it'll go by to the north of us though.If not there's always another day....ha ha.This one's hair roots are being stubborn also.
If I'm lucky it looks like I'll have around 45 square feet of rawhide to brain tan and smoke from the 4 deer.
I might smoke 2 of the smaller ones together in a tube.Then smoke each larger one seperately.
Got around 15 to 20 pounds of pig brains in the freezer to use.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 04, 2022, 11:10:31 am
I have a bad habit about not mentioning every problem solving remedy about this type tanning.

Weather....It's best to dehair during low humidity times.50% or less is ideal.Above 70% and on some older deer with thicker epidermis the epidermis can become rubbery or kinda gummy and not come off in a clean swipe from the scraper.It can chatter then also.Letting it set in the sun during high humidity will help also.
It can be dehaired during high humidity periods though.Just with a bit more tedium.Rescraping a different direction and then sanding usually solves the epidermis removal problem.

Scars.....After fleshing and sanding and before dehairing take note of all scars that are visible from the flesh side.Knowing then while dehairing where they are to avoid punching or tearing a hole.Those type scars will be completely through the hide.The flanks and belly are where most occur.Foul shots from seasons past etc.Always dehair with the line of the scar.Never crosswise.Scars do not smoke clean through and will show up white after smoking.Sometimes it can be easier to cut a hole with the scar and sew it up after braining but before roping.The sewn hole will be darn near invisible after smoking.
I use a no. 10 sharps needle and nymo beading thread to first sew the hole just before roping it dry.During the roping process if your sewing is good the leather will conform to the stretching and appear fixed and flat.Then after roping dry I resew it completely shut with real sinew before smoking.
Barbed wire marks down the spine line are usually not seen from the flesh side.Because they are not all the way through the hide.They usually don't bother at all.
All in all it really is'nt that hard of work.You can go at your own speed to finish it up.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 04, 2022, 07:31:02 pm
Finished dehairing the final hide.I'll conclude during this process that useing 40 grit on the orbital sander is safe enough if you watch what your doing.An ultra sharp scraper will usually do the job.
(https://i.imgur.com/gBBdSun.jpg)
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Buckskinner on July 05, 2022, 07:53:53 am
Looks great Ed!
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 06, 2022, 05:35:07 pm
If it's going to be a while before a person makes brain tan out of this deer rawhide.It can be stored for quite some time as is.
What I have done in the past and it works is that I give each hide a light misty spray of regular deep woods off.
It'll keep the bugs away.
I'll pick and choose myself when the weather is ideal for a stretch to rope these dry.
You also can brain the hides good and freeze them too,and then rope them dry when weather is ideal.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: mullet on July 06, 2022, 05:59:21 pm
Ed, what size are your racks? I'd like to make some from the cedar growing on my place before hunting season starts.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 06, 2022, 10:27:37 pm
Cedar is a good choice.They can be left outside and won't rot then either.Because they might be light I'd make them into 2" by 4"s at least,or a good 3" round if not cut lumber.They should'nt bow or twist then too bad while drying.

Inside dimensions of frames I have......1 frame [7' by 6'] is big enough to accomodate large beef,buffalo,or large elk 900 to 1000 pounds.Other [5.5' by 6.5'] is for big white tails 200 pounds or more,and the hedge frame [5.5' by 5.5'] is for medium sized deer around 150 pounds.

I like the use of a frame close to the size of the deer so less lace is used,but still get a good stretch on the rawhide.Holes are cut 1" in from edge every 4" or so.I use a nylon half inch braided tape that was used to pull fiber through conduit long distances to lace mine.Using 30' lengths and tying knots as I go.Nylon does not tangle very easily.Hardly at all really.Knots come out rather easily also.A real time saver.
I used to use nylon parachute cord which works great too.
Making them 5.5' by 6' will accomodate most all deer.Inside dimensions.
I used to have more frames.Can't remember where they went over the years.They were 2" by 4'' pine lumber.
I've seen some nifty versions by some useing clamps on cords to stretch the hide in.A bit faster,but I don't think it gives it as good of a stretch.
For softening in the frame though [staking] the hide does not need to be very tight at all.

Here is the only other different way I used to lace hides in.With staples around the inside edge of 2" by 4"'s.
A set up in the basement of my old farmhouse 40 years ago.Had a wood stove and used a fan too in the basement to do them through out the winter.Same dehairer also.
(https://i.imgur.com/mf3zjsQ.jpg)
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Will B on July 07, 2022, 12:39:39 pm
Looks great Ed. Great information. By the way I already used some of your rawhide on a hickory recurve. Very nice, high quality rawhide you sent me. Thank you!
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 07, 2022, 07:25:12 pm
Glad to hear it was put to good use.Your welcome.
Many ways to decorate a rawhide back or just to leave it natural too.
It's been raining pretty much every day here lately.Not complaining though.We need the rain.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 07, 2022, 09:36:59 pm
Here are the 4 hides ready to be brained.
Laid on top of each other rolled up.3' ruler there for a reference of size.
(https://i.imgur.com/otH3OR7.jpg)
Largest one rolled around the smaller ones.
(https://i.imgur.com/kHIEmtR.jpg)
Do them all when the weather is more suited for the job.
If your wanting to make 3' long 2" wide rawhide strips for backing bows you can see many can be gotten from 1 hide.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: mullet on July 09, 2022, 02:23:46 pm
Thanks, Ed for the dimensions.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 10, 2022, 09:26:31 am
If ever your at Pappys' place like you've been in the past at Twin Oaks I'm sure he'd help you out too.He's brain tanned many a deer hide.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: Pappy on July 10, 2022, 06:36:02 pm
Looking good Ed, I have 10 or 12 rolls like that standing in the corner of the cabin just waiting to be brained when the weather gets right, that may be a while around here,  :-\ good thing as you said if you keep the bugs/mice or dogs out of it and dry i guess it will last a life time in raw hide form, sort of like leg tendons, I got some out Friday for a friend and helped him pound it, no problem and I am sure they were 8 or 9 years old, I just save all that kind of stuff and if you keep it in a dry safe place it will be there whenever you need it,even years later. I love watching your tan a longs, I have done many but always seem to learn something I haven't thought of that make it either easier or better leather , Thanks. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 10, 2022, 10:17:02 pm
Yep it's a type of tanning without chemicals that can be picked up anytime the mood swings a persons' way with it still being as good as gold for the final product.
Getting them into the rawhide state makes room in the freezer for other things.
It's been a yearly ritual or priority for me for quite some time.Hides usually don't stick around very long though and I've made about everything under the sun from them in the past too.
Quill workers and bead workers will seek out good brain tan for the projects they sell and a lot of them go there too.
Funny how things stick with a person that are liked as a kid.Fur,leather....etc.
Title: Re: More hidework
Post by: BowEd on July 11, 2022, 07:21:51 am
While growing up I lived just a few miles from the South Dakota border.I guess I am influenced by the culture of the native american plains indian.A sound nonimpactful way of getting along with mother nature.The nomadic life style they lived is 1 reason why I use the dry scrape method of brain tanning.
Another reason why I make many things out of rawhide also.Parafleches,containers,boxes,quivers,knife sheaths and the like.All these items stated are posted with pictures on threads.The strips of thicker rawhide I use to tie or secure a lot of things.Usually from thicker beef rawhides.
(https://i.imgur.com/J1STxjN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OmzRDf3.jpg)
I use it to make my top shelf hide glue also.
Even lacing in a backpack/chair combo.A build-a-long is posted making this item.This as a back pack that weighs less than 5#'s and it'll carry 90#'s of meat/equipment or as much as you can handle.It's a chair to sit around a camp fire or even a chair in a canoe like long ago.A multi purpose use item.
(https://i.imgur.com/3n83U1A.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HGd1rKZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7ZqaCQm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/33EIgjN.jpg)
As luck or bad timing can happen.I've had to go through a minor surgery and recovery says I'm to not do any strenuous excersize for at least 3 weeks.Even riding the lawn mower is considered extreme.Extreme if you ask me but a person better not argue with a surgeon.
I'm doing well though and the future looks bright.