Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bentstick54 on November 24, 2022, 11:01:03 am
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Would like some opinions on taking off another 3# to 4#. Currently at 50# @ 28”, thin ringed Osage, 63”ntn, 1-3/8” at widest point of fade tapering to 1” then last 6” tapering to 1/2” tips.
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I should have stated that it has taken 1-1/4” set in the outer 1/3 of both limbs.
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The overall tiller looks good to me. :OK You could bring the bend back towards the handle on both limbs to reduce a bit of weight but go gingerly and check the weight often.
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Very nice looking tiller. Set indicates that too. First I´d let it sit braced for a few good hour or shoot it a couple 100 times and check tiller again. If # hasn´t gone down, I´d scrape or sand evenly on both limbs to keep that tiller.
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If you only need 3-4lbs. reduction and you want to maintain the same tiller shape, follow Askel's good advice.
To my eye, the top limb needs to bend, just a small amount, mid-limb. Again, go slow and only make a few scrapes at a time, then exercise and check. The final few adjustments will test your patience.
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The overall tiller looks good to me. :OK You could bring the bend back towards the handle on both limbs to reduce a bit of weight but go gingerly and check the weight often.
+1 for pats advice. Go lightly on closer to handle. I would be careful taking any more off on outer 1/3 where you are seeing set. IMO.
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Thanks guys. Asked, I have only shot it maybe 20 arrows but have left it strung several times for about an hour each, plus have had it strung at full tiller while tweaking the tiller it’s a card scraper. I think I will follow Pat B’s advice on scraping/sanding going into the handle a little more. That seems to be where my weakness falls, by not getting enough movement right out of the handle.
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If you only need 3-4lbs. reduction and you want to maintain the same tiller shape, follow Askel's good advice.
To my eye, the top limb needs to bend, just a small amount, mid-limb. Again, go slow and only make a few scrapes at a time, then exercise and check. The final few adjustments will test your patience.
This is exactly what I see as well.
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I think the tiller is very good. Enjoy it. By the time you sand it you'll loose some weight. Jawge
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Thanks George. Very little sanding need, back and edges have already been finish sanded, and belly has been worked down carefully with card scraper.
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Looking good!
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bentstick, welcome. Shoot it at least 36 times and then check tiller and decide if you need to reduce it more. That's what I do. Jawge
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I think the tiller looks good to my eye. I haven’t seen the unbraced profile so I’m assuming it was pretty even.
I would probably shoot it some more. Do some sanding and see how it feels then. If it take a little set and you lose a little weight from sanding you might be right where you want.
It’s easier to take weight off than to put it on. Wouldn’t rush anything at this point.
I like that you are still trying to perfect the tiller though and not just taking off lbs.
Bjrogg
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I took a few scrapes off mid limb like NonBacked suggested, then concentrated on the 4” or 5” out of the handle. Dropped weight to 48# so I’m stopping there. Shot about 30 more arrows through it and am happy with the way it feels in the hand at the loose, so I’m calling it good. Going to start finishing with Truoil , will post some photos when done. Thanks for all the help.
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I have an Apple iPad, and an iPhone. How do I go about posting multiple pictures on 1 post, instead of individually on multiple posts? I prefer using the iPad due to the larger key pad if possible. Thanks for any assistance.
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From the blown up pic by non backed I tend to agree with him. But I have not seen an unstrung pic.
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Sorry, I can’t figure out how to post multiple pictures, but here’s a string of start to finis.
From the blown up pic by non backed I tend to agree with him. But I have not seen an unstrung pic.
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Starting profile.
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30 minutes after shooting.
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Final tillered.
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Full draw, 48#@28”
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Back profile.
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Sorry for the 3 starting profile pics. Shot 10 shot string, throwing out high and low, averaged 167fps, with 430 gr arrows. Hopefully will turn out to be durable, time will tell, but happy with the way it came out for now. Took a fair amount of heat corrections to get it to this point. Thanks for looking, and any and all advice.
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Great result. Hard to beat a classic osage bow.
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Tiller looks spot on to my eye. Nicely done.
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Sweet bow. Tiller looks great to my eyes. The unbraced profile seems to think so too.
Nice work
Bjrogg
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Thanks guys. I never worked one with rings as thin as these and was not wanting to back it. I’m happy with it, hopefully it will be durable.Just looking for a good durable hunting bow.
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Would like some opinions on taking off another 3# to 4#. Currently at 50# @ 28”, thin ringed Osage, 63”ntn, 1-3/8” at widest point of fade tapering to 1” then last 6” tapering to 1/2” tips.
Beautiful bow . The rings look to have close to fifty percent early wood . Makes for lighter in mass bow but those staves seam to take more set for me. But it’s Osage and that’s good enough for me. Arvin
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Would like some opinions on taking off another 3# to 4#. Currently at 50# @ 28”, thin ringed Osage, 63”ntn, 1-3/8” at widest point of fade tapering to 1” then last 6” tapering to 1/2” tips.
Beautiful bow . The rings look to have close to fifty percent early wood . Makes for lighter in mass bow but those staves seam to take more set for me. But it’s Osage and that’s good enough for me. Arvin
Keep the mass the same and make it a bit wider and they should take less set.
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Thanks Steve, I’ve been trying to keep them narrower just because I liked them, but I can sure work back to wider to increase performance and reduce set. I know you’ve experimented and built a lot of bows, and value your knowledge along with many others on here. I lurk more than I post because I’m definitely an amateur, but check in constantly to learn from those with lots more bows under their belt, like George T, Arvin, Pat B, Weylin, Erik Krewson, and many others.
I’ve read several posts were people comment on this site going downhill. I sure hope all you experienced bowyers don’t abandon this site because you aware such a valuable asset to passing on the knowledge you have acquired. Through all the differences of opinions, methods, and types of bows, it gives us rookies the ability to consider all views, and beliefs and mix and match knowledge to expand our knowledge. You’re all much appreciated. Thanks.