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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: FlintWalker on July 12, 2008, 10:23:39 pm

Title: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 12, 2008, 10:23:39 pm
Dangit Steve! Look what you started.
  I told myself, "Don't try knapping, you don't need another habit."  But between you and that fire water down at Pappys, I gave in.  It's fun too.
 These are my third and fourth points (counting the one from Pappys) They are smoke tinted glass. The Big Sandy was supposed to be about twice that size, but you know what happened >:(  The bigger one is 3" long 1-1/4" wide.  I know they're not exactly flint, but hey, you use what ya got.  I broke a few, then started watching Paleo man Jim on You-Tube. He has some really good videos about knapping slabs that helped a lot. 
 And Cowboy, I still owe you for the points you sent me. What you got wasn't near enough.
  Just thought I'd share.  Saw Filer

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Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Justin Snyder on July 12, 2008, 10:41:36 pm
Man I need to spend a little time with Steve if he taught you that.  Nice work. Justin
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Otoe Bow on July 12, 2008, 11:36:24 pm
Man those are nice.  :o I've got to try me some of that glass.   ::)

Mike
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Hillbilly on July 13, 2008, 11:07:03 am
Durn, Shannon-you're making us all look bad-you're already knapping like somebody that's been at it for years. :o I don't think I taught you all that, you're just a natural, you must have been a Clovis dude in a previous life. ;D And it's all the fault of your big ol' jug-o-firewater that I kept breaking all my johnstone into little bitty pieces down there, so we're even.  ;D ;D Awesome work, man. Now you need to smack some flutes in that big blade.  :)
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 13, 2008, 04:47:08 pm
Ooga Booga!  Me try to flute one, no workum on both sides. Maybe better next time. :D  It's 2-5/8' x 1-1/8
  I made a better pressure flaker. I'll check You-Tube and see if I can figure out how it's supposed to be done and give it another try.
 Oh and I ain't making ya'll look bad at all.  This glass is easy.  I really admire someone who can start with a big chunk of flint and make a point or blade. That takes talent.  Saw Filer

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Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Ryano on July 13, 2008, 05:25:00 pm
Shannon is a natural at every thing he does  ::)......The boy is a artist.  ;D
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Pat B on July 13, 2008, 05:57:00 pm
...everything but drink from the jug-o-firewater! ::) ;D...although, look what came from it!!! 8)   Pat
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: DanaM on July 13, 2008, 09:34:35 pm
Dang show off ;) Nice points Shannon and apparently you got the good camera from the wife. ;D

I have a jar of yer secret recipe, maybe I need to try a sip or three next time I get to do some knapping ::)
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Otoe Bow on July 13, 2008, 11:54:15 pm


This glass is easy.  I really admire someone who can start with a big chunk of flint and make a point or blade. That takes talent.  Saw Filer
Talent, and I think you have it.  Great work.

Mike
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: GregB on July 14, 2008, 08:31:02 am
Those are some really good looking points Shannon! Great photo's of them as well! :)
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: mullet on July 14, 2008, 10:20:33 pm
 Ha! Ha!  You are hooked, And I'm glad. You deserve it after making those points. Nice.
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: david w. on July 14, 2008, 10:22:48 pm
WOW those are so nice!  I cant believe those are only some of your first ones.

Is the last point fluted?
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: mullet on July 14, 2008, 10:32:07 pm
  Show us a sideways shot? ::)
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 14, 2008, 10:51:20 pm
David, that last one is kinda fluted, I tried, but don't really know how. ???
 Eddie, I tried to fight the urge to try it again, but it was raining all weekend here and with no bows going right now, I had to find something to do. I would like to try some obsidian though, you know...just to see if I can ::)  I'll try to get some sideways shots posted as soon as I can.  I'll go ahead and tell you thought. The little one is about 3/16" thick and the other two are 1/4" thick in the middle.   Saw Filer
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 14, 2008, 11:29:00 pm
Here ya go Eddie. I can see that my center line isn't as straight as it could be. I think I need to slow down and take more deliberate, smaller flakes as I get closer to the final shape.  I didn't do very much fine flaking on the edges of these since I had no intention of trying to get them very sharp. In fact, I knocked the sharp edges off these since I don't plan to use them.
 The first pic is the wannabe clovis, the next is the bigger blade and the last is a little Dovetail I made last night.
  I've got a lot to learn, but if I can just get to where I can make a decent hunting point, i'll be happy.

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Post by: Pappy on July 15, 2008, 06:57:31 am
Very nice work Shannon,looks like you been doing it for years. :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: cowboy on July 15, 2008, 07:11:43 am
Yer a machine Shannon ;D. Them look good and like the background too. Those edges straighten up pretty easily if their half way straight before you start the fine work. Just rub the edges a couple of times with a fine abraider so you can see all the deltas and which way they need to be picked off back and forth to make the edge straight, it'll be sharp too :).
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: D. Tiller on July 15, 2008, 01:37:34 pm
Oh, thank god! I was thinking you were the next robustus.  :o  Now I see humps and a couple hinges. I feal much better now!  ;D

Great points by the way. Wish I was doing that well when I started out.
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: mullet on July 15, 2008, 05:55:08 pm
  You are way ahead of the learning curve , Shannon.Like Cowboy said those edges are easy to straighten up. Real nice points.
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: D. Tiller on July 15, 2008, 06:24:00 pm
Also, remember treat pressure flaking reduction just like you would percusion. Always take from below the center line. That way it will always be lenticular and you wont hing flake as much!
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Dingleberry on July 18, 2008, 10:23:36 am
Dang Shannon those are awesome.   I'm jealous,  I seem to have hit the plateau of not very good, and can't get off it.   Maybe, I'll blame Hillbilly for that.....haha

What kind of tools you usin?
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: Hillbilly on July 18, 2008, 10:31:21 am
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I seem to have hit the plateau of not very good, and can't get off it.   Maybe, I'll blame Hillbilly for that.....haha


Jonathan, that sounds much more likely for my students. As a matter of fact, sounds like you're copying my techniques right down to the last detail.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 18, 2008, 11:38:23 pm
Glad you like them Jonathan. I wouldn't call them awesome though. It's pretty easy working with flat glass. It's reducing big rocks down to usable points that impresses me.
  The only tools I have are two copper tipped pressure flakers. I tried it with antler, but just couldn't get it to "bite"
  I found the bottom of an old blueish green mason jar today, it's pretty thick and if I don't break it, should make a real pretty point.  Here is some pictures of #6 and #7, The longer one is 3-1/4" long the other is about 2" long. I made sort of a pine tree/lost lake type point last night. It turned out pretty good except for a few tiny little step fractures.
  Steve, it's O.K. to be humble, but we all know how good you are ;)
 And David, looking back on almost every point i've broken I realize that almost every one of them was from not working at or below the center line. That's good advise. Thanks   Saw Filer

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Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: D. Tiller on July 19, 2008, 01:31:43 am
AHHHHHH!!!! Stop it Shannon. Your doing better than me and I've been at it off and on for a  number of years!!!  ;D
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 19, 2008, 01:59:17 am
 ;D David, I compare this to bow making. If you ain't breaking, you ain't making!  Almost every one of those points started out much bigger than they finished  ::)
 A high school buddy of mine always said, "Aim high, if you fall a little short, you'll still be way up there."  ;)  Saw Filer
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: DirtyDan on July 19, 2008, 11:30:05 am
Shannon,  not only are your points fantastic, but your photography is awesome.  That purple dusky background is beautiful.  What a wonderful way to show off your work.  You are doing great, my man!

Dan
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: DanaM on July 19, 2008, 11:55:33 am
More nice ones Shannon :) I see my problem now I never aimed high enough :D
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Post by: Ryano on July 19, 2008, 12:50:15 pm
You da Man Shannon !
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: cowboy on July 22, 2008, 11:16:21 am
More works of art, like that saying too. Have ya had a chance to hit any of those soft rocks I sent ya >:D ;D?
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: FlintWalker on July 22, 2008, 10:20:51 pm
WHAT soft rocks??? ???  Are you crazy?  Man, I've all but reduced every single rock you sent me down to pea gravel and ain't got a single point out of it.  I just can't seem to make flakes big enough to get anything of any size out of them.  I know it ain't the rock, it's me for sure.
  Maybe one day i'll have a clue ???
Title: Re: It's all Hillbilly's fault!
Post by: GregB on July 23, 2008, 08:40:45 am
Shannon, those are beautiful...you're definitely a perfectionist! ;)