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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: shortarrow on September 12, 2008, 10:12:20 pm

Title: Saami Bows?
Post by: shortarrow on September 12, 2008, 10:12:20 pm
I was looking through an old copy of Instinctive Archer magazine and came across an article on Saami bows. Anybody ever built one? There is one variation that doubles as a ski pole.

Rob
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: El Destructo on September 12, 2008, 11:12:35 pm
                     and another one that doubles as an Instrument that is played sorta like a Cello!!
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: medicinewheel on September 13, 2008, 07:14:59 am

if i ever come along the right piece of pine compression wood that has grown up the artic circle i WILL make one!  ;D ;D ;D
frank

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Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: shortarrow on September 13, 2008, 04:20:21 pm
Those are great pics medicinewheel.
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: ricktrojanowski on September 14, 2008, 07:15:39 am
I believe there is an old PA article on Saami bow's.  I can't remember which issue, but if you check out the site and look for contents of the back issues you will probably find it.
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: medicinewheel on September 14, 2008, 07:36:49 am

i'm sort of sure the bow pictured is not a saami bow; those are straight limbed.
this is a variation from sibiria with the same sort of construction: birch-backed compression pine!
maybe the lost stellmoor bow was something similar (just my opinion...)
but these bows are really interesting and smart constructions.
frank
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: PatM on September 14, 2008, 10:38:43 am
If you go over to Paleoplanet there is a great replica made with Ipe, a backing strip and sinew. It looks fantastic. It does have a non-traditional snakeskin backing but it is easy to imagine it with birchbark.   http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/18433/t/Lamination-attempt-2-Ipe-Elm-Sinew.html
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: a finnish native on September 15, 2008, 08:00:31 am
hmm.. Maybe I will build one some time and present it here. After all I do live on Sami country, on the arctic circle ;)
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: Fundin on September 15, 2008, 09:11:04 am
I have just planed the willow backing for my first yesterday (the only preserved one was willow (Salix caprea) backed spruce (Picea abies) compression wood.

I am not sure all the Saami bows were straight, the one Linneaus collected was for sure, but pictures of saami people with bows can resemble static recurves at times.
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: a finnish native on September 15, 2008, 11:08:30 am
yeah, the Saami people definitely had some static recurves in their bows. (not in all of them). I believe that one Saami bow that has been preserved had Birch as backing material and compression pine on the belly. some sources claim that there would have been European bird cherry also (prunus padus), but I can't see where on the bow it would have been. Maybe as an alternative for birch.
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: tpoof on September 15, 2008, 11:37:17 am
It would be something to see a working replica along with the ski pole snow basket on the bottom limb..
I can recall the article on the old PA mag... it was most impressive and the bow would have to be even more able to do double duty as a weapon and a ski pole...
a hunting bow goes thru stresses,, a ski pole has its work to do..
multitasking would be an great achievement for a piece of wood.. :o  :D
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: shortarrow on September 15, 2008, 01:26:46 pm
It would be very cool to see a working replica of the ski pole version.
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: El Destructo on September 15, 2008, 08:54:35 pm
If you go over to Paleoplanet there is a great replica made with Ipe, a backing strip and sinew. It looks fantastic. It does have a non-traditional snakeskin backing but it is easy to imagine it with birchbark.   http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/18433/t/Lamination-attempt-2-Ipe-Elm-Sinew.html

Thats quite the Sweet little Bow....not Authentic....but very nicely Designed and built
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: medicinewheel on September 16, 2008, 01:48:52 am
If you go over to Paleoplanet there is a great replica made with Ipe, a backing strip and sinew. It looks fantastic. It does have a non-traditional snakeskin backing but it is easy to imagine it with birchbark.   http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/18433/t/Lamination-attempt-2-Ipe-Elm-Sinew.html

Thats quite the Sweet little Bow....not Authentic....but very nicely Designed and built

as far as i know the backing and recurves are one piece in the original.
Title: Re: Saami Bows?
Post by: PatM on September 16, 2008, 09:53:23 am
One one example yes, but there are several listed variations of siyah attachment.