Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: devilfishsix on October 20, 2008, 06:11:54 am
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well i have that green stave drying and i didnt find any bamboo so going to make another bow like te one before D STYLE so ill post pics after ty
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Very cool. I was thinking about survival bows today. A split of a branch, or a whittled stick would seem like really good ideas- just put your time into arrows. I'm looking forward to it :).
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You guys wanna try a survival bow comparison. Only one rule...branch or sapling no bigger than 2" in diameter. As in a survival situation, you use what you have available as far as tools go. Only competition is with yourself as how simple you can make it.
I have thought about building one and even started a few but haven't completed one yet. I go out and cut a sapling and will start a new one from scratch. Pat
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im game,
just so happans that i have aquired some osage limbs that might be do the trick ;)... i will keep it as simple as this... the only thing i will use is my k-bar and some paracord... how much time we got on it??? i was planing to use my afternoon on trying to split the two log halfs into some staffs... but i might try to get to it a little latter tonight if i still feel up to it...
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Like Shooter, Ka-Bar seems like it'll be what I'll be using (a hatchet makes it a hatchet bow contest anyway).
Do we do arrows too, or jsut the bow?
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i actually challenged my bro to 3 arrows and a survival bow challenge he willpost here as well when he has finished mine as usual will be hazel and ill use my opinel which i made last with good luck all
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I think we should start with green, fresh cut wood so the playing field is level. As far as time limit...how long can you go without eating. ;D To adjust for our busy lives, lets give it a month...November 20. Lets each try to keep track of what tools and methods we used through the process.
Devilfish, I hope you don't mind us stepping on your thread. If you do, we can start a new thread just for this event. Pat
ps. An arrow or 2 probably should be part of this process, too.
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This is gonna be cool!!....Brian
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Well, my wife wants me to cut out all the little trees in my yard anyway. Guess I'll try to give it a go.
possum
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Once a year I give myself 1 week to make a bow a few arrows and then kill something with it. So far i haven't killed anything but have completed a bow each year, I never successfully made a string yet and each year had to go buy some string. There is quite a bit of nettle in Mississippi, I may try that next time. I have had the best luck with red cedar as it dries out pretty quick and I can often find dead branches that havent decayed. Plenty of cane for arrows growing wild and road kill has supplied my fletching. I use a pocket knife and rasp as primary tools and will sometimes borrow a tool or two from my inlaws like an axe or something. Not skilled enough in knapping to attempt stone tools. Steve
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yup, sounds like fun! ;D
im in.
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Im just glad u guys liked the idea, and no pati dont mind u stepping on my thread i am sticking to two tools for the job my hunt knife and my opinel they go every where with me so im pretty sure if i got in a spot id have me with me also a lenth of bailing twin or para i carry which is why i used it as string.
i dont know what sort of poundage these green bows wil make but i know i saw a vid the guy bound several staves to add the poundage if u was lost in canada orsomeother territory where u cant see the wood from the trees i guess the moor powerful the better. i doubt you could stop a maurauding bear with a 30 lb bow lol unless it was booboos little cousin\
well all have fun november the 20th to get em all in im going to enjoy this alot
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hey, Pat,
i i've got a couple of osage limbs and samplings that i got from a wood pile... i dont know actually how long that pile has been there but i cut the bark off one yesterday but the thing must have been only bout 40" or soo and i tried carving down to much and it broke on me but the wood was still very green and it was very wet to the touch when i cut the bark off it.... i have some more limbs and saplings like this.. will this be ok to use or should i go cut a fresh sapling to make the survival bow???... i will probably use one that i was planing on using one that still has the root on it and green leaves on the sapling but it did come from a tree pile... i will probably get a few of the boys from the team to work on one this week end too... i think this will be a great opertunity to do a good project with the boys and i'm stoked it going to be good... and good i'm glad its going to be in a month gives me time to try and get a scale to weigh the poundage but i'm not going to scale it till its complete... and k-bar and paracord is all i'm going to use... very pumped up about this..
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Pat, any rules on the string part? Survival so whatever we got on hand??.....Brian
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I think the fewer rules the better. As with a survival situation you use what you have or can find.
I didn't have a chance to go out and get a stave today but will try tomorrow. I'll be looking for a hickory sapling. ;) Pat
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I went out this morning and found a nice hickory sapling. Brought it back home and began reducing it with my throwing hawk. I used a small hatchet to start the split. I found it easier(relatively speaking) to scrape the bark and cambium layer off with a sheath knife. The stave is reduced to near bow dimensions and will rest next to my wood stove for a while. Here are a few pics of my progress so far.
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This is ging to be fun :).
Besides the dead line and the need to use green wood, the only limitations on the tools and string are our own skills- correct?
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yep!
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yep!
Sweet. I've got a couple ideas I want to try.... >:D
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I got some sapling hhb, think I will give that a try.....Brian
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this is the start of our survival type bow.
my friend jamie thomas and i began our hunt for a straight ironwood sappling,and he found his right off the bat!
inbetween some pics there are video links, click on them to see!
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and he began to chop it down after roughly sizing it up just under his actual height...
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shortly after i found mine, not as nice as his but it will do just fine,and i also cut it down to start to make a bow from it...
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these are some of the "tools" we used, along with a piece of cord for a tape measure,and his small camp hatchet...
the bows quickly began to take shape...
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after we removed the bark we used the cordage to find the bows center,and then marking the handle section...
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then we grabbed some coal from the firepit and began to roughly mark out the handle section and the tips..
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then a little heavier wood removal and j.thomas was ready to get it bending....
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man, his bow is realy comming along!
this is HIS FIRST BOW!!!!!
that is why im doing most of the picture taking, ok ill throw in a shameless pic for myself...
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whoa! i have to take off more mid limb and outer limb before i do that again!!! lol.
ok lets try this...
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still needs more taken off, but its going to come in heavier than i thought.
this green iron wood snaps back into place real good....maybe i should not have used the term "snap" huh? hahaha
ok, im done for today, its unstrung and thick and still green.
about 30-40 minutes of bow working time so far....
now back to j. thomas....
hes doing fine isnt he!!!!
that wood is awesome!!!
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a little more shavin...
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and finaly he wanted to realy "push" the envelope!!!
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then off to his garage to wipe on a little fat.
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total work time is just around 50 min, from living tree to wipe down!!!!
enjoy
jamie b.
jamie t.http://http://
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Cool!..Ah, Pat...might as well start a new thread and peg it to the top...this is about to get crazy ::)....Brian
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Well Gents,
i got rained out of work today ;D
so i figured it would be perfect to do the survival bow... i was able to get one made... but i think the hardest thing was keeping my integrety while working on the bow :D... its kinda hard working on a "Survival Bow" in the comforts of you own home... with all those extra tools just begging and calling your name to be used on you project at hand...lol... but i was able to keep focused on what i knew had to be done...
so this is what i used....
- 0ne k-bar... (pre sharpened)
- one bundle of milspec 550 paracord (black)
- one osage tree limb... sapling... (salvaged from tree pile to be turned to wood chips..)
the morning started with me waiting for the right time to go out and grab the treelimb that i had grabed from a wood pile forma constrution site last friday evening... the one i chose to make the survival bow from is actually very fresh and still had the roots on it... it had a thicker base sapling around maybe 2" diameter" and came up maybe 60" or so and then turned into a y splite with two limbs it was the left limb that i chose to do the survival bow with... becuase it was the one i had availiable the other limb had been left behind in the twisted mess of trees on friday i had to chop it with a matchette to get this sapling free for the pile of twisted tree's...
soo i have a sapling in hand with enough wood to make two bows... but i go for the limb for the survivale bow becuse it has a diameter of maybe 1.25" at the base of the Y and maybe .75" at the far top end of the limb...
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I did it. Trying to decide if I have enough time to jump in also.
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ok i have several pictures... so i'll do my best to try and explain as i go... here is another view of the limb befor i started... well what i have here is limb that was cut @ the Y of the sapling one big swift chop from friday from the machette to seperate the limb from rubbage and then several cuts with the k-bar to separate from base of sapling...
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here is a pic of the limb with just a little bark removed so that i could show that even though i didnt chop this one down and i grabed it from a wood pile it is still very green... so i debarked a little and took pic of the green-ness in the bark ;)
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sure you do mullet!
get in on it!!!
i may finish this one and start another...as this one will make a heavy weight hunting bow! 55-65#
what i was gunning for was a 30-40# lb d style bow...but this sappling looked soooo nice!
my interpretation is pretty much a branch with already bow like dimensions, just "fine tuned" and hunting without too much time involved.
plus, id like to start to finish the bow in an hour...ill start smaller, build a fire and heat treat it ,add color and a string, and then make a couple of arrows.
ill just give this one away when im done and start another and post.
jamie b
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man i sure do like the looks of osage, that stuff is purrrdy!
honestly i have only seen finished bows of sage...never even touched a sage tree!
and could not find the tree that dropped all the "little green brain balls" all over the road!
so sometime soon id like to get a sappling of sage or a sliver,or a sproutlet to make a "d" bow out of.
jamie
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well i used the hazel from this picture to make my first d bow and now im using the thicker branch to make another first i removed albark but now i got to split it ill post pics as i go, great work guys what did i start lol
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i made the bow as simple as i could with the whole "survival mode" mind... i didnt want to use anything that i would not have with me in a survival situation... but i know if i'm walking into the woods i always have my k-bar and some paracord... actually i always have my hydropack/daypack that is a suvival pack... but that is for another thread... but from now on i think i'm going to add a basic bow and arrow making kit to my survival pack/hydropack... becuase the whole time i was thinking when i ws making this bow is that the nocks for the string would be th most dificult and it did prove to be true... i took most of the time spent on the bow was on the nocks i use alot of cuation in this area didnt want to cut to deep and becuase the k-bar is fairly big knife and i keep it very sharp any little slip up here and i would for sure cut myself... :-\ soo i sued a little cuation here and took my time with it... but the whole time i was thinking if i had to make a bow in a survival situation i would want to make it quick and functional as fast as posible to arm my self and be able to have something handy if need be.. but my whole thinking is i could make a bow easily enough with k-abar ans paracord but i would have to make arrow as well and then i was thinking the nock on the arrow would probably be the most dificult i know how i used to make them when i was a kid... i used to put a butter knife on moma's natural gas burning stove until red hot and then burn the notch on shaft with the red hot knife... i did it this way cuase with trial and error i learned if i cut a slit with my pocket knife then the string would end up spliting the arrow and if i burned it it would harding the wood and make a nice notch or nock...
but anyhow back to the bow...
i worked quick and simple with most of the time on the nocks carful to not slip and cut myself and not to mention ruin the bow... with nocks cut and in place i put the string on it and did a few final carves to get a basic tiller nothing real fancy just enough to be comfotable with saying they are even enough for a survival bow... i didnt clock my efforts but id have to say in between 1hr to 1 1/2 hr tops... maybe a little less...
i went out with a puchased cedar arrow and with a leather glove on the bow hand to rest the arrow on i shot the bow about 20 times or so... not very impresed with its acuracy but it shot and i got a ful 28" draw from it and i didnt measure the bow but i know unstrung it comes up to my chin and i am 5'9" tall or 69" tall soo my guess would be about 60" or soo i will measure it laer... i dont know what the pull is on it yet dont have a scale but i might pick one up this weekend...
after shooting it i i unstrung it and it stayed in the curved position taking alot of set it had some curviture to begen with soo the curve just increased...
i finished the bow with an extra piece of osage limb split and carved it down thin with about a 3/8's flat surface that i scraped on the concret to get it to shape and flate at the top for an arrow rest and then wraped it with the extra paracord for a paracord handle...
and then i bent the bow back to try and straighting it as much as posible...
now here is where i improvised... and i dont feel that i cheated becuase... in a survival mode it could easily be done with a camp fire.... but for this purpose i used a propane burner i went ahead and heated the belly a little bit to help it from staying bent after destringing it... but this is something that my consciance told me i better post it... but i keep it about the same distance and did it the same way i would have done it if i was out in the wood in survival mode and over a camp fire... but i can honestly say that this is my survival bow...
i havent shot it after putting on the cord handle or the heat to the belly soo if in survival i know i could have probably had a functional bow strung and survival tillered in about 40-50 minutes give or take...
and one with a rest and paracord handle with heat to the belly giving i had a fire going allready in aboout 1 hr or soo...
not to bad in my opinion...
here is the pic...
i will try and get the true specs at a later time... measurement and weight... and i know that as soon as i have some of the boy on the team come over we are going to do this as a project from start to finish in the woods in a true survival mode with of coarse food and there issued gear at hand...
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if you were in a true survival situation, i believe that you would adapt to the bows shooting ability as your empty stomach would do a whole lot of encouraging for you!
if you are STILL worried about its speed or performance, just thin out the tips and take a little of the mass off of the outer thirds of the limbs.
you are right in an aspect that "when do we decide to quit" working a bow/or a survival bow?
you have a shooter,and it will serve the purpose right...so i think you are done.
nice job. expecially on the speed in which it was made.
thats is why i dont think it would be fair to put my bow against yours as the performance may be better due to a little more dry time and extra work time i put into it.
great job anyway!
jamie b
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Wow just noticed this thread and I'm very impressed. You guys are doing great ;) Neat idea and challenge. Got me looking around the yard at a few trees that need pruned. Wonder if there is something big enough and straight enough on the plum tree :o
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Two hours of work with just my Ka-Bar. I've really watned to try to build this bow for a while, to see just WHAT I could get accomplished with jsut this knife. I'm very pleased so far.
I started off with a small sassafras. I dropped one with just an antler tine and some sandstone before, in my "No stone stone age bow" but this was much easier. However, it was standing dead, and after roughing it out, I decided the scrap it. I did, however, gather several multi-flora and a piece of sourwood for foreshafts. I cut them to length, and I think at least four of them will turn out to be good ones. I'll feltch them up with some turkey feathers that I've been finding here over the past couple months. I'll be drying/straightenning them over the next few days until they're straight and dry.
Anyway. I went back to the sassafras patch, and saw a small hickory over at the crest of the hill. I took it, instead, having seen the many wonderufl stone age bows Jamie Leffler's done, and knowing it's the best bow wood around here.
It's about 64" long, and so far the tiller is pretty balanced. Being so short, I'm shooting for 50-55#. But anyhting as low as 40-45# would be fine so long as I can get it to shoot quickly and hard enough (narrow tips and a tempered belly will help later). However, you can see the huge MESS that ants have done to the wood.
I was AMAZED at how simple and easy this was. The hickory bow took less than 45 mintues to construct, and I'm sure it will turn out to be a fine little bow.
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is it ok if i jump in seeing as all i do are survival bows ;D. i'll start one this weekend. peace
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Rut Roe,, the survival bow master just stepped into the ring ;D
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I see this as a learning experience for us all. The more the merrier. ;)
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yup! ;D
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ok gents,
i must be as lucky as they come... or just fortunant that i work in a company where my uncle is the field supervisor and top of the todum pole... how ever he calls me @ 0430 this morning asking if i was up and ready to go... i told him yea but i uselly dont get up for work till about 0500...
he laughs and said well get you a$$ up cuase were taking the day and going to our deer lease... ;D ;D :D ;)
just another furtunant fact that my boss is also the guy i hunt with ;)... so were off to go check on feeder's and do a little bow hunting so i think man this is great i'll take out the survival bow and give it a chance to make some meat!!!
no luck on the making meat part we hunt in jackborro Tx and live in Dallas tx soo its a little over 2hr drive... soo we get to the land a little after sunrise and stumble accros serveral doe and a nice 10 pointer... but we were still in the truck and and were not able to get any type of shot off...
but over all i had a great time and i got to take the survival bow out to the field... and i got my cousin to take some pics of me and the survivor in full draw.. or close to full draw... but after looking at the picks i might have to rework the placement of the handle i didnt measure it when i built it up just used feel but i think is a little low..???? and i really like this survival bow it feels alot heaver draw then my 55# bear recurve 48" magnum... but it sure does shoot sluggish and slow would that be becuase of the green wood??? or the paracord or is it design??? if i was in survival mood i know i could easily make meat with this bow... at least i would think the bow would do the job cant say much for the hunter... :D but if i wanted to improve on the bow which even in survival mood i think i would do that anyways after i had gotten something to eat with it and i would have a full belly and a little down time...
any suggestions
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im sure it has alot to do with all the things you mentioned...
remember, the challenge was, survival bow,minimum tools, in a pinch.
and you hit it right out of the park with all three.
now if you want , so your bow does not take anymore unwanted set/stress, oil it up real good and leave it in the back seat of your truck or in the trunk of your car.
i bet it picks up speed,and pounds.
i also found out that the camo all purpose string they sell for "duck hunting lead sinkers" works great for longstrings, bowstrings in a pinch,and bowdrill fires and about 1000 other uses in the field.less stretch than paracord as well,and weight.the cost was like 3.99 for a 300 ft. roll.
great deal!
there is nothing wrong with that one, now if you are interested in making another/better one, and you see how quickly you made this shooter...take some mental notes, make another and fine tune your drying, thinning, finishing techniques...and you will not have the urge to pick up the glass bows you have as often or even at all.
nice "survivor"
jamie b
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if a bow is roughed to floor tiller then set in a warm area you can expect it to season within a week or two. before drawing and finishing the tiller a bit of roasting over hot coals will dry it enough to draw it and not worry about excess moisture. its not a hot box but itll bring it to within reason. badger stated using deead cedar branches. probably the best quickie bow material in the woods. wether its one branch or two tied in the middle the stuff works great. it also dries out lickity split.
not that its important but rushing a bow even in a survival situation is unneeded. a bow would be the last worry on my list of worries.
peace
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Anyone else think Jamie should have to use power tools for his survival bow? Give him a REAL challenege :D.
As for it being sluggish, all the slow bows I've made had four things in common: paracord string, wide tips, poor tiller, and yes, green.
Which brings me to my question. I've seen most of the best flax and milkweed strings made by spinning threads, then making the string like that. Could I get away with just cording some good milkweed up?
I'll also be starting a second, "back up" this weekend. This is just too much fun for just one :).
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im with you kegan,
i might have to make several more of this type, i found it to be alot of fun... and it brought me very found memories of when i was a kid although i dont think i ever had a real good stick bow back then cuase i dont remember ever really tillering on i just remember maybe carving the fat side down close to the thinner side for better ballance but i remember carving all around the stick, not just the belly... :D
but if some of the boys from the paintball team come ove this weekend im going to for sure have them do this challange... ;D and i might have to make another one ;D ;D
i might shoot for a lighter wieght bow and maybe even shorter one for just rabbit and squirl... ;D
i m also going to put togather a bow and arrow field kit to add to my daypack/hydropack...
and going to issue to the boys or actually have then put one togather....
i have to say this is alot of fun...
thanks....
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the original bowde is drying a treat and im thinging and tillering it a bit more i got a better string and this bows now sending my might bamboo arrow down the garden alot faster and hitting the ground deeper iv got it drying in my bedroom unstrung next to the new one i plan to make aint done it yet though great job all nice bows made so far guys
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Well, after trying to make another from hickory, I discovered that even though the tree was plenty clean, it was too large. So I took it out and put it with the rest of my "wood horde" to make up with hand tools later. So, I set about finding a smaller one hickory.
Well, I didn't find any clean, little hickories, but I did come across a very clean elm. Many of the elm around here suffer from DED, or wahtever it is that weakens the wood and kills the tree, so I was hesitant, but I'm glad I took it. About an hour to an hour and a half yielded this one. It's very clean, straight, and defiantely has potential. I'm hoping that I didn't mess up the tiller by chopping off too much. It's 66" or so long, and about 1 5/8" over the full length. I don't know actual dimensions, just "body measurements". I also just used my Ka-Bar for this. I'm really liking this one, as it sorta reminds me of an Eastern Woodlands bow :).
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I think I removed too much wood from the handle area of my first attempt so I cut another hickory sapling and have it reduced and drying. I also remembered a sassafras that came down when I took out a big red oak for firewood. I went back and picked it up this morning. The piece I brought back is 2" in diameter and 60" long. Being short I will make this also a bendy handle bow. I have it reduced also so that makes 3 in all.
I cut a sourwood shoot a few days ago, stripped it and laid it under the wood stove. Tonight I cut the nock and point slot with a knife and a few stone tools I made long ago. I'm still trying to figure out about a point. Pat
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here is mine on the tree, nothing special just double checking...
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ok now its got a nice "burn" camo job,and a little extra heat dont hurt either when this green either!
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little further...
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little more............
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done.
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from living tree to usable bow about 3.5 hours.
it is still green yet and what i know about this wood, it will gain a solid 10 pounds when completely dry, or more.
i just have to be extra carefull at that point as all of the little nicks and dings from the hatchet and nothing sanded smoothed, just burnished..but it will MOST DEFFILATLY put meat on the table!
i could have taken it quite further but i did not want to stray too far from "strictly function".
no handle wrap, just some coal markings,ang a heavy hemp cord for string.
overall 65 ntn and it sits now a little under 40 lbs.
when it cures ill have a nice 50-55 pounder.
it was fun.
jamie
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here is my buddy showing off the main implement used in making his bow!
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here it is on the tree....
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little pull...
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realy getting close now....
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this guy has _ _ _ _ _ of steel! this ironwood is TOUGH STUFF!
(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x74/michbowguy/jamiesselfbow2012.jpg)
LIKE I SAID IN PRIOR POST, THIS WOOD IS STILL GREEN! but his because it is about 6-8 inches shorter came out a little heavier...it is a nice bow!
ive got to teach this guy about DRAW LENGTH! hahahaha....like hes pullin back a warbow i think!
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one more...
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ok. these are our entrys.
it was fun indeed, but to be honest...it was cool going through the steps of "simple" bowmaking with him...
im not sure if he got it or not but the whole time i was talkin' he was throwing wood chips like a chainsaw from his end!
jamie.
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pat: how do you deal with those crooks in the stave?
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I will try to heat straighten them and if that doesn't work I'll heat bend the rest of the bow so the string crosses the handle. ;)
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thats awesme, the fact that you kept with the good old k-bar is what really gets me, too. haha, the warbow comment was right on the mark ;D not going to lie though, i'd do a bit of work on the upper fades, strap it to a log to reflex, and let it dry for the winter, those things are beautiful, and the'll stiffen up beefing up the draw, you could have a 100% indian bow on you're hands, my friend. good luck, and keep posting man, -jimmy
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True primitive archery!!
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Michbowguy: Maybe I missed it but what kind of knife is pictured, brand etc.? Nice tiller by the way.
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carbon kabar campknife.
wayyy awesome.
friend liked it, so now it is his.
o well. ::) ;D
jamie!
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Now thats a KNIFE! :)
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Well, the time limit has passed. We have some pretty cool survival bows already and I am really impressed with Jamie's and his buddy's bows. Very good work guys... but...... ;D....I have started 3. One is too weak at the handle, one is coming out too weak all together and one still has a chance. I have to admit that this isn't as easy as I thought. Trying to work with limited tools while all those other tools cry out for attention, tugs at my heart. :'( I have no doubt that if push came to shove, I would be able to make a serviceable hunting bow but without the dire need, my success has been severely limited. :(
I will continue on my own to perfect my techniques with limited tools and eventually try stone tools but for now I cry UNCLE!!! ;D
By the way, I limited myself to a single bevel hawk, camp ax and scraper. Boy did I miss my good ole' Nicholson #49. ::) Pat
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Ya Pat I miss your #49 too ;D..wish I had one :P...Brian