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Bows / Re: Black locusts bow
« Last post by sleek on November 19, 2025, 03:29:57 pm »
When I lived in Maine, BL was the best wood I could easily get.

My first use of it was from a small tree that only allowed a 1-1/2" wide stave. I made a pyramid design bow that was nearly perfect tiller at #35. It had about 3 inches of  reflex. I shot it a lot and it performed well. Then I discovered that the belly had a parade of frets from one tip to the other--the whole belly.

With nothing much to lose, I just kept on shooting it. Eventually, I over drew it and it broke.

For the next few years, I made all my bows with backs narrower than the belly. But my subsequent research found studies that indicated that wood only stretches about 1% before breaking. SO, narrowing the back does not make the tension wood stretch more to accommodate the compression of the belly.

We all know that if we bend any piece of wood far enough, it WILL break. The balance for bowyers is in making the limbs thin enough to not yield (take set) at the amount of bend (draw length) we want. At the right thickness for the bend, the weight will be determined by the limb width.

My best locust bows were pyramid design, a little under 1/2" thick, 2-1/2" wide at the fades, 68" NTN and about #40 at 28".

How long do you make your handles and are your tips stiff? Im trying to calculate how long the actual bending section of the limbs are for your bow.
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Arrows / Re: Stone point tests.
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 19, 2025, 01:58:40 pm »
Those are wild rose shafts
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Bows / Re: 2025 Junior Bow Trade
« Last post by stuckinthemud on November 19, 2025, 01:44:04 pm »
Need an update please guys
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Arrows / Re: Whoops!
« Last post by Pat B on November 19, 2025, 01:32:21 pm »
That can get costly with self nocked shafting. I've done it a couple of times over the years but not intentionally. It amazes me just how strong sinew wraps are.
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Arrows / Re: Stone point tests.
« Last post by Pat B on November 19, 2025, 01:29:19 pm »
Even if a stone point hits bone and breaks the broken edge is quite sharp and can add to the lethality.
 Looks like you are using hardwood shoots shafts. What are they?
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Bows / Re: Black locusts bow
« Last post by Jim Davis on November 19, 2025, 01:15:08 pm »
When I lived in Maine, BL was the best wood I could easily get.

My first use of it was from a small tree that only allowed a 1-1/2" wide stave. I made a pyramid design bow that was nearly perfect tiller at #35. It had about 3 inches of  reflex. I shot it a lot and it performed well. Then I discovered that the belly had a parade of frets from one tip to the other--the whole belly.

With nothing much to lose, I just kept on shooting it. Eventually, I over drew it and it broke.

For the next few years, I made all my bows with backs narrower than the belly. But my subsequent research found studies that indicated that wood only stretches about 1% before breaking. SO, narrowing the back does not make the tension wood stretch more to accommodate the compression of the belly.

We all know that if we bend any piece of wood far enough, it WILL break. The balance for bowyers is in making the limbs thin enough to not yield (take set) at the amount of bend (draw length) we want. At the right thickness for the bend, the weight will be determined by the limb width.

My best locust bows were pyramid design, a little under 1/2" thick, 2-1/2" wide at the fades, 68" NTN and about #40 at 28".
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Arrows / Re: Chrono tests
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 19, 2025, 12:29:26 pm »
Rock maple bow with 575gn arrow.

I unfortunately don't have, at the moment, any exact 10 gpp arrows for any of my bows.
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Arrows / Chrono tests
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 19, 2025, 12:27:28 pm »
Put two different arrows through the chronograph today, with two different bows. Just out of curiosity and for education's sake.

one arrow is 575gn, the other 300gn.

One bow pulls 50#, the other pulls 43#. Both drawn to 28 inches.

Here are the results

50# pyramid reflex shot a 575gn arrow at 140fps. Chatgpt (i know lol) estimates for a 10gpp arrow this would be between 148-153 fps. Not bad.

With the same bow, the 300gn arrow was shot 158 fps. I can't promise my release is consistent, but I was trying for consistency in release and draw length.

Next set of photos is a 43# rock maple bow with reflexed tips. It shot the 575 gn arrow at 127 fps. Again chatgpt estimates about the same, 150fps with a 10 gpp arrow. Not bad either.
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Arrows / Stone point tests.
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 19, 2025, 12:16:13 pm »
I made two sacrificial arrows with my least favorite points. This is my first time testing stone points.

They did great, with decent penetration until I backed up and shot high with both. They punched through the backdrop and hit 2" thick pine. You can guess what happened  (lol)
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Arrows / Whoops!
« Last post by Robert Pougnier on November 19, 2025, 12:13:44 pm »
I was testing different types and batches of arrows today (more pics next topic) and this happened. I almost wished the nock wasn't wrapped so well so we could have seen how far the arrow split. I hit it with a sharpened duplex nail
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