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Bows / Re: First time making a Bow: Vine Maple
« Last post by TheDeerHunter on Today at 03:14:14 am »
Welcome to the forum

Never worked vine maple but the advice above is consistent with what works for me with other white woods.

I would recommend only harvesting what you can debark and split, I have taken more wood than I can deal with in the past (side of the road, liable to clearance). Harvested in the spring I have just slipped the bark off and left it but in the late summer or winter the wood can start to spalt or decompose as it doesn’t loose it’s moisture fast enough. Splitting seems to stop or at least slow this.

There are lots of woods that you can force dry but I often find if I dry them too fast they don’t crack or split but can warp into crazy shapes if they are left too thick. Clamping to a form can help prevent this but I then worry that the tensions can build up inside and then be released as you shape them.

I generally split, alllow to dry slowly for a few weeks, then bring into the coolest part of the house and then Steadily move to the warmer part of the house, then I rough out my bow blank to be perhaps twice my final limb thickness, the I put them on top of a radiator until they stop loosing weight

Great info, very good to know thank you! I will just do the one vine maple this spring, a pre seasoned board from the store before that. Then think about future projects when i've got these wrapped up.
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Flintknapping / Re: Glass and obsidian points
« Last post by bjrogg on January 13, 2026, 10:36:40 pm »
Nice points Ozy. Thanks for sharing them.

I need to get back at it again too.

Bjrogg
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Bows / Re: First time making a Bow: Vine Maple
« Last post by Aaron1726 on January 13, 2026, 09:49:45 pm »
Welcome!  You are in good hands, the members here are always willing to help and offer advice.  I know they have helped me through several builds. 

I just finished my first vine maple bow for the junior bow trade.  I really like it, it's pretty snappy.  Mine was a stave from a fellow member here, was sealed on the ends with paint and that was it.  I will warn that I had to be careful with a draw knife when shaping, it tended to want to split out instead of cut.  So I'd say don't try to shave it too close to final dimensions before you switch to the rasp.

Good luck on your build, and like bjrogg said, we like pictures :)
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Bows / Re: Birch bark over sinew?
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on January 13, 2026, 07:19:30 pm »
Yep, definitely going to have to do this some time.  Beautiful stuff.
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Bows / Re: Birch bark over sinew?
« Last post by superdav95 on January 13, 2026, 06:10:04 pm »
Nice!
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Bows / Re: Short staves- draw length and draw weight trade off
« Last post by superdav95 on January 13, 2026, 06:06:52 pm »
Yao could have saved you some trouble going down the rabbit hole of gas burners.  Too bad.  They didn’t work well for me either.  The only things that ended up working for me was a good heat gun which take a lot of time even if you build a holder, and a hot coal bed.  The coal bed is the best in my opinion to get a thorough cook.  You will benefit from protecting your back with a heat resistant material like insulation or insulating foil perhaps.  I used a roll of pink insulation layer out on sticky foil tape that worked.  I’ve since moved to roxul the green stuff held in a strip with foil tape and then weight that down as is cooks.  I find it doesn’t send glass fiber floaties around in the air like the pink stuff does.  Anyway some thing to consider for next time.  I also don’t heat treat woods like western or eastern cedars or junipers or yew really.  At least not the same as we would with white woods.  If doing corrections in twist or alignment fixes use steam. It will make the corrections more safe and drastically reduce your splinter lifts or breaks if done right.  Overheating can cause wood to become too brittle and snap.  White woods generally take more heat better the other woods even Osage.  So long as you take measures to avoid too much wrap around heat effect on the stave white woods can tolerate a lot.  I’ve got many hhb, hickory, elm and others in white wood category that have taken darker then normal heat cook over coals and been great shooters.  Even bamboo is a great candidate for heat treatment.  I know a lot of guys don’t do this but for me I’ve found some noticeable benefit from doing it.  If using bamboo for backing only heat treatment on the non rind side.  Especially for backing.  If using a bamboo backed and bellied bow then there is benefit to doing a treatment on the compression belly side boo only.  Some of my fastest bow have been these ones.  Anyway lots of info here on the forum.  Do some searches I’m sure you’ll see some good examples to give you a good reference.  Message me directly too if you like. superdav95@gmail.com
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on January 13, 2026, 04:31:01 pm »
I see these things are popping up again.

Bjrogg
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on January 13, 2026, 04:29:27 pm »
Looks a little stiff in the outer part of lower limb for sure. Gets harder to know what isnt a bow from here on
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on January 13, 2026, 04:26:53 pm »
Put in a little overtime over the weekend.

Bjrogg

Still a ways to go but it’s coming fast now. Limbs had to move a long way just to get to normal brace height. I think it’s 45 @ 19” here.
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on January 13, 2026, 04:17:09 pm »
Burnsie we grew up very much the same.

I grew up on a dairy farm. My grandpa shipped his milk in the old milk cans. My dad switched over to a bulk tank with a cooler and agitator. We still carried all the milk to the tank by hand and dumped it in through a filter. I remember when we got a “modern “ pipeline. That really helped. The milk was carried to the tank by the pipeline and it saved a ton of work. In the summer you could look in any direction and see Holstein cows grazing in a pasture. 30 to 60 milk cows per herd.

We raised sugar beets and edible beans. Both of which had to be cultivated and hoed by hand. Believe me. I know where the saying “He got a hard row to hoe “ comes from. Of course we had hay to bale and straw to. We learned really young never to complain about being bored. Dad could always find something to do.

We were pretty good at finding things to do to. Didn’t take much to entertain us. We got rid of the milk cows in the 90’s and raised beef cattle until 2012. My son still has beef cattle and I help him out to.

Same here. A few Dutch farmers started up much bigger operations and now they are pretty much the only dairies around. I guess they can have it. I certainly don’t miss the cows. Did I mention it was twice every day. Plus all the other stuff. Cleaning pens, feeding calves, breaking in heifers that had never had a calf and been milked before. Dehorning and casturating calf. Not to mention the very important job of getting the cows bred back so they would have another calf and produce milk again. I honestly don’t know how those big operations do it.

I much prefer the crop side now. It’s still a lot of work, but I enjoy it. I find it challenging and rewarding. Not so much financially, but it’s good for my soul.

Bjrogg
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