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Offline stuckinthemud

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tiller check please
« on: September 01, 2023, 10:17:54 am »
I first built this billet bow 6 years ago, it had issues, including a deflex kink over a knot and overlays on the back and belly that needed binding to stop a weak handle bending too much, and it was pretty whip tillered.   I never shot it but put it on the rack of shame and moved on to the next one.  Anyway, I pulled it down last week, heated out the deflex kink, dealt with a few problem knots properly that I had ignored last time, then I tempered the belly, flipped the tips a little and reflexed the thing an inch.  I would welcome your thoughts on the revised tiller, the centre is not really a working section, and I know it starts bending too far out from the handle.  The weaker limb (left) is the lower limb.

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Andrew


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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2023, 11:58:40 am »
The right limb is bending fine. The left limb seem to be bending a bit too much at mid limb.
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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2023, 01:25:17 pm »
That’s what I see as well.  I am pretty close to my target draw weight.  I could try hitting the left limb with more heat but I suspect that’s not going to tighten it up enough.  If I get the right bending more, will I lose much draw weight, or could I call it positive tiller and leave things as they are?

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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2023, 04:14:58 pm »
Andrew, shoot it a bunch and see if it doesn't smooth out a bit.
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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2023, 04:17:39 pm »
Sounds like a plan, I like it.

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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2023, 11:01:24 am »
needs a shorter string on it to see... get it low braced
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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2023, 05:01:37 pm »
It is true that that’s my tillering string but the bow is at a brace height of 4 inches from belly to string

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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2023, 06:33:16 pm »
Can we see it at 4" brace?  :OK
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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2023, 11:49:50 am »





Really annoying that most of the "flip" in the tips has relaxed out of the wood since I last looked at it, we've had a run of hot weather and I wonder if that's the cause?  I thought I'd heated the wood pretty hard, but not hard enough, it seems.


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« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2023, 02:40:51 pm »
Looks good Andrew. You can always flip the tips again. It does look like the tips thin out a bunch before they thicken up at the very tip. That may be why the bent tips won't hold a bend.
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Re: tiller check please
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2023, 04:31:02 pm »
The tips are very narrow at about 12mm or just under 1/2”, so that makes sense