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Thank you both.  But it does bring up another question.  If these get tiresome let me know.

Were the Holmegaard and Mollegabet bows brought to England and then morphed into what we call the English Long Bow?

And, my limited knowledge suggests a lengthening of the basic bow shape as you go north geographically and forward historically.  At least with respect to Europe.  If I am not wrong and I know that is a big if, then do you think that was a response to the different wood types or even a result of going from horn to wood or do you think it was another example of man's fascination with bigger is better?  Kind of like a monster truck or a nuclear powered aircraft carrier.

Like I said if these questions are bothersome or would be better asked somewhere else please let me know.



I think that the english long bow is NOT a derivative of the flat bow style.  They are very different.  The ELB bends all the way through, tip to tip.  The Flatbows like H'G and M'G only bend through the inner portion of the limbs, with the outer limb acting as levers and the handle being stiff.

half eye:
I really do not believe that the ELB and Viking bows are related at all. All the Viking bows that I am aware of are of the "flat bow" type....even the newly found bow from Sweden. Also Of the Viking bows where the wood can be identified it is elm....the rest they are not sure about.

I think the Elb would be more closley related to some of the Germanic and/or Frankish styles that were quite long and had more "rounder" cross sections. Also I believe (personal opinion) that the ELB type bows are easier to mass produce, allbeit by skilled bowyers, than are the flat type bows. The English had large standing armies of well trained archers who practiced from childhood to handle the enormous (weight) of their war bows and so Quasi-mass production would be a benifit. The English also had a "tax" on spanish wine that consisted of 2 YEW staves per barrel imported.

The last reason is simply age. The Holmegaard and Mollegabets are in the range of 9,000 years old and the Elb were in their heyday between the 1,300/1,400 era.

That's why I dont believe they are related, but thats simply my opinion and we all know what that's worth.

Thanks again to both of you.  My knowledge of bows is meager to say the least and I feel embarrassed to say I never actually considered the bow shape when I was wondering about the relationship between the Mollegabet and Holmegaard type bows and the ELB.  And I had no idea that 8000 years separated the two in History.  I think the reason I am interested in this is that the Bow seems to me to be such a non-intuitive weapon.  It isnb't throwing a rock or a stick.  It is taking the stick and using it in a whole new way.  I mean sure a person can bend a branch and maybe intuit that there is a stored energy there but the idea of stringing the two ends together and then using that instrument to fling another seems hard to just dream up.  I guess we are lucky early man was smarter than me.

Another thing that just amazes me is that the bow could be an apex weapon for ten millennium.  In this day and age where change is rampant I can't believe that a single technology...yes, as I have learned today it shows up in many shapes, but that a single technology could suffice for so long.  Good gravy, think about the car.  Here we are sure that some day we will all have access to a starship.  But what if the car is that kind of apex technology and five thousand years from now people are still stuck in traffic trying to find something other than the farm report or Rap music to listen to.  Shudder.

Thanks again and I apologize for hijacking the thread.  If it is any consolation I yearn to build a Holmegaard, a Mollegabet, an English War Bow, a character bow and a laminated wood RD.  But first I have to finish building the workshop.


square shooter:
 ;D. Just want to add that the Vikings are said by some to be from the Israelite tribe of
Dan. Scan din avia means across the land of Dan. Also, many writers out there have
convinced some that carbon dating, and a few other types of dating, are not accurate..
As soon as I can find some quotes ill post them. 


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