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Offline jamie

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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2010, 11:47:56 am »
i'll give it a whack, literally  ;D. gonna have to be just the right stick too.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2010, 03:56:57 pm »
yea and i bet it could be set up with some sorta abo lever device.
and would be small enough and light enough fora paleo indian to lug around.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2010, 04:27:38 pm »
ive been thinking along those same lines. ive been thinking about forked trees for support an somehow tying on a lever device
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2010, 08:31:33 pm »
i have a idea with a hole in the stick under the fork and a notched piece of wood some lashing and a deer antler.
no idea how to explane i'll have to draw a pic.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2010, 09:04:20 am »
jesse when u get a chance post a cumbie before fluting too. i set up a couple more bifaces but would like to know what i should be fluting.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2010, 11:23:48 am »
hey jesse , ive been on line all morning looking at casting and other lithic sites on cumberland, and youtube watching videos. one video of jeff (clovis knapper) and his jig definetly got my attention. im pretty damn sure i can replicate that jig with just abo tools. hopefully i'll be able to spend some time this week on it and ill give a lot of these ideas a whack. im gonna try and set up a few more bifaces today so i have plenty of em to break....i meen flute.  ;D one thing is for sure, after working on the cumbies, i can make a clovis point in my sleep now.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2010, 12:54:19 pm »
I have pics of that 8 1/2 inch black and whte nocac cumberland i made. I have befor and after of the flute.
i have no way to shrink the photos at home you have to pm me your e-mail.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2010, 01:25:09 pm »
Jamie I know Jeff and that's his rendition of a solberger...he goes a lot of fluting that way but also uses.percussion...but I'm with Jessie I'm willing to bet my house that pressure was used for fluting clean off  the tip!!

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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2010, 05:05:24 pm »
you can look at the flake scares on a old fully fluted cumberland and they have the characteristics of a pressure flute.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2010, 07:11:13 pm »
Very good thread, Jamie.  I'm watching with great interest. :)
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2010, 11:02:17 pm »
jesse my email is workswithrock@gmail.com

minor set back today. had a beautiful piece of georgetown ive been using for bifaces for this. went for a hit and it shattered bad. major internal cracks. today i biface pretty much every large piece of whatever i have so i can start setting up material for the cumbies. using everything from johnstone to obsidian. i'll pick up some more chert after christmas.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #26 on: December 21, 2010, 11:20:12 pm »
I'll send you rock for the experiment. I have enough laying around and I'm picky about what i want to hit on lately.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2010, 08:55:47 am »
damn jesse, thank you. got the pics. that is one hell of cumbie. i'll pm my address to ya. tried to do it with email but it wouldnt send. i'll also make sure to photograph anything i do with jigs. gonna get some of the bifaces set up for fluting today and the rest of the week. next week i'll work on jig. i have som ideas based on the jig i saw on youtube. thanks again.
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2010, 03:33:07 pm »
so i just reasearched animal life and landscape from 10500 when the cumbies were made. because i wanna use materials that were available then. looks like oak and bone for the jig. yes i have issues!
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Re: journey to cumberland
« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2010, 03:49:25 pm »
Was there a source of antler?
 I think bone will splinter
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