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Offline SiongSA

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making reflexes
« on: February 01, 2011, 02:58:30 pm »
Hey guys, me again
working on this piece of ash and i would like to make some reflexes/ recurves in it. But yes, i'am the most primitive archer in the world so i don't have the equipment to make them accurately. Does anyone know how to make a simple mold to set the reflex in? and also the ash is only 2 weeks since cut to i'm guessing steam would be better that dry heat?

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Offline denny

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2011, 03:59:26 pm »
I would take a 2/6 and make a radius of 3inches and drill some holes in the board with a (2 inch hole saw) to use clamps to hold wood to the form.I use a space heater or heat gun. Some use grease or bear fat to protest the wood from scorching. I don't use steam for a lot of reasons. But some do.The trick is to heat, too hot to touch , but not to scorch,start your clamping to the mold and ever so gently bent around the radius.Let cool and there you have it. hope this helps. Denny

Offline Kegan

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2011, 05:43:23 pm »
Same as Denny, 'cept I use steam. Both of our heat guns have kicked the bucket, so steam is a lot easier for me.

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2011, 08:08:19 pm »
ash is the best wood in the world for steaming...
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Offline SiongSA

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 06:19:23 am »
bump this topic^

Hey guys,
i'm still looking to put reflex into my now finished ash 69" flatbow, the reason i really would like to do this is because the bow came out a little of the light side (30lb) so i wanna make it a bit stronger. My problem is is i finish the bow with beeswax, so if i steam the wood it wont be effective right? do i haave to take the wax off first, or if a dry heat instead won't the wax act as a sort of oil/grease that people use for dry heating anyway?

Any advice appreciated

Offline bubby

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 07:19:15 am »
it's the heat from the steam, not the water that get's the wood to bend, so it should work
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Offline crooketarrow

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2011, 11:14:59 am »
   Put it between 2 saw horses and hang a cinder block in the middle. I add reflex to all of my staves this way.
  I only have a draw knife rasp ans scraper.  I you have  these you can build a bow. Useless you want  to get really primitive then get a peice of flint. I've did this it I fell for the indains that did this. At least you don't take to much wood off at once.
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Offline Pat B

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2011, 11:20:32 am »
It is the heat from the steam that plasticizes the wood so it will bend. The wax might even deter the moisture from re-hydrating the already dry wood.
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Offline fishfinder401

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2011, 01:16:03 pm »
i steamed a bow that i had already finished with linseed oil and it worked great, and in my opinon better than without anything on it, it might work the same way with the wax ;D
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Offline SiongSA

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2011, 01:49:25 pm »
ok getting the steam ready now, how long shuld i steam it for?

Offline fishfinder401

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2011, 01:51:47 pm »
ok getting the steam ready now, how long shuld i steam it for?
what size is the bow?
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Offline SiongSA

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2011, 02:17:59 pm »
the end i'm doing atm is 1/2" at tips to 3/4", 1.5cm thick

Offline Pat B

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 02:37:27 pm »
I'd say 30 minutes to 45 minutes. You will just have to test it to see if it has become flexable enough to bend.
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Offline SiongSA

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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 02:40:59 pm »
I'd say 30 minutes to 45 minutes. You will just have to test it to see if it has become flexable enough to bend.
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Re: making reflexes
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 03:16:23 pm »
what pat says sounds bout right, i would say a little less, but more probably wouldn't hurt
good luck
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