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Offline boo

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what is to heavy
« on: June 06, 2007, 06:03:39 pm »
im forging me some points and broad heads and was wondering what yall think is the heaviest head i can get away with? im haveing trouble getting below 200gr. thanks  boo
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2007, 06:17:42 pm »
200 grains is getting fairly heavy for a point unless you're shooting at armored Frenchmen ;D It would smack the crap out of a deer, though. The typical field point is 125 gr. and broadheads anywhere from 100 to 150-60 gr. Try 'em and see how they shoot-200 gr. would probably be good hunting points for a heavyweight bow..
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2007, 07:03:19 pm »
I have seen modern points at 200 grains. Don't remember where, but I know I've seen 'um.

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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2007, 07:51:08 pm »
..............Ole' grizzly steel broadheads were 190 gr. Don't know if they still make them, maybe Kustom King Archery has 'em........bob

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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 08:50:33 pm »
James Parker uses stone points strapped on carbon arrows that weigh around 240 grs
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2007, 08:56:57 pm »
The heaviest point found in the mouintains here in Norway, dating to the middle ages, is weighing 787 grains :)
It was for hunting reindeer. The average were 350 grains.

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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2007, 10:19:53 pm »
how many gr is 1/2 oz? thats what i have them down to now. i went ahead and glued them on my sourwood shafts to try tomarrow. im shooting about 60lbs. ill let you know what happends. bobby
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2007, 10:41:24 pm »
I think 1/2 oz. would be about 219 grains.
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2007, 02:05:53 am »
An ounce is 437.5 grs! ;D   
   Bobby, There is probably some guys on the War Bow thread that would be interested in medieval bodkin point and such. They like them heavy! ;D
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2007, 07:24:52 am »
weight doesnt matter. flight and your ability to hit the mark matter. i shoot well over 10gr per pound usually 100 grains over what most shoot. with heavy heads a stiffer shaft is definetly a must. peace

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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2007, 09:16:51 pm »
pat i am makeing points with a socket that glues on but with the socket as small as i can get it the point is still well over 200gr.i was trying to leave as much steel as posible to try and forge a broad head out of the point but at 1/2 oz the point is to small to make a legal head. my thingking was to make a glue on broad head but there is no way to forge one under 200gr. im going to forge some trade points and see how that goes. i can make the glue on points less gr so ill just have glue on field points and trade point broadheads.at least it will all be hand made .

jamie im shooting 45-50 spine arrows so yes i guess i could shoot some 65-70 or even higher and make the point work but man that would be a heavy arrow and that would change everything. id have to learn to shoot all over again. but ill try one and see what happends, it might be a pleasant suprise? you never know. bobby
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2007, 12:30:08 am »
Unless you are shooting an English warbow, I would imagine it would be difficult to forge broadheads of an appropriate size & weight.  However, you could probably forge some nice atlatl points.  As for broadheads, I would recommend Glen Parkers chapter on Steel points in the Traditional Bowyer's Bible v2.
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2007, 12:40:57 pm »
Could you maybe forge the broadhead blade and braze it onto a ferrule of lighter material?
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2007, 11:43:07 am »
I use some 160 grain trade points out of a 52/53 lb bow the shoot really well,never tried any heaver but out of 60 I would think 200 would be OK.I like the heavy head lot better pentration
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Re: what is to heavy
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2007, 02:33:02 pm »
how many gr is 1/2 oz? thats what i have them down to now. i went ahead and glued them on my sourwood shafts to try tomarrow. im shooting about 60lbs. ill let you know what happends. bobby

Here is a good site for conversion of any weights or whatever. I use it all the time to convert to grains as the only scale I have is in Oz.
http://www.metric-conversions.org/weight/ounces-to-grains.htm

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