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Offline mitch

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Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« on: April 16, 2012, 11:05:03 pm »
Allright so im going on a canoe trip at the end of this month on the south fork of the llano outside of junction and i have never made fishing arrows before. I intend to use post columbus gear so steel heads are acceptable. Got any helpful hints and/or pictures? ???
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 02:46:53 am by mitch »
"Any old stick will do for a bow, but the arrow gets the deer." Ishi

Offline mitch

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Re: Questions about primitive bow fishing?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2012, 02:15:01 am »
My bow is 50# @ 25'' osage 56 1/2'' ntn reflexed tips
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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2012, 05:06:14 am »
Take a properly spined arrow tear the fletching off put a barbed point on and there you go. The string attached to the arrow providers enough drag at short ranges to compensate for the the fletching. Have fun   8)
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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2012, 01:17:23 pm »
well duh  ::) LOL (no disrespect ment) I was hopeing for some north and south american designs
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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2012, 10:02:44 pm »
Hahaha you asked.

Google it bro you'll find plenty.
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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2012, 10:13:01 pm »
Haha I did. I settled on a south american style arrow, the shaft is 46'' long cane 1/2'' diametre with a 10'' barbed hickory point.
"Any old stick will do for a bow, but the arrow gets the deer." Ishi

Offline Bevan R.

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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2012, 10:28:30 pm »
Not sure where you are going, but check the game laws. In Nebraska, the arrow MUST have a like attaching it to the bow.
Bowmakers are a little bent, but knappers are just plain flaky.

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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2012, 02:37:21 pm »
 :o oh thanks for the intel ill have to check into that for sure
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Offline crooketarrow

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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2012, 01:43:43 am »
  I make fishing arrows from VIBURUM the hollow pit you can had nails 8's with the heads cut off. The nails had a lot of exture weight with exter heavy heads. These go a lot deeped that a solid wood arrows.
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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2012, 02:50:24 am »
thanks im using a cane mainshaft though
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Offline Prarie Bowyer

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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2012, 01:47:47 am »
I'm struggling with this also.  I built the stone tipped version of the "Yoyindo 'Primitive Bowfishing' twice.  Didn't work so well for me but I also had other fails.

if you do a removable foreshaft make shure that it bottoms out on a node wall, AND give it some glued and sinew wraps topside to prevent it getting shoved into the shaft and fused there. 

Cane arrows are too light.  You'll need weight.  I cut steel wire and twist it like a drill into the end of the shaft. 

Stone tips can look cool.  If you do that use real epoxy or superglue to fish them then wrap them well and coat taht stuff well too.  TB3 dsoent do wo well with constant exposure to water.

Personaly my next arrow will have a steel foreshaft 3/16" in diameter.  Abos forged a barbed head on them.  I'll probably make a bone/antler tip that will slip on and off.  Fish don't just roll over unless you break teh back and "stone" them.  when they take off and fight you'll damage the arrow.  So the toggle tip detaches but remains attached via a line.  This reduces torquing they shaft. 

Make a straightening tool and take it with you.  Just a 1/2" hole in a board.

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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2012, 10:24:26 pm »
Here is a S. American point,and arrow.I think the point is a palm wood.The shaft was made of cane that has no nodes in the shaft and is about 40" in lenght.My uncle traded a S. American Indian(right out of the jungle), his tennis shoes for his bow and arrows.The bow was made from the same wood as the point. God Bless
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Re: Need help with primitive fishing arrows
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2012, 01:27:28 am »
And there you have it.