We were trying to get around to that 

 , just wanted to know if anybody else had experience with this before I started hacking down the backyard..  Gather some information and possible “all natural” refinements (sinew? )   Shot down before a single informative response... 
  Ps . I’m a mod too at an electronics forum , and I try to be Encouraging and at least give people a warning first...  Just sayin ‘ , this got nowhere...