Ya guys I am in Seattle right now but when I get back to Spokane I will take some pics and do a write up on the bow, be home Fri. It turned out really nice silk backed and stained. Then I shot a deer with it and threw it out of a tree to hustle down, it hit a branch on the way down flipped back to the mail trunk and a tree step took a ding out of the top limb. Just scraped it down sanded the ding out and put finish back on so now it has an area with no stain, I will say it has a "beauty" mark!