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Offline Del the cat

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Strand Count for 100# ?
« on: October 18, 2013, 04:44:09 am »
I'm using Angel Majesty string, but I guess it's pretty much the same as mast of the decent modern Fast Flite type strings. I was thinking prob' 12 or 14?
My Elm Warbow is near finished
Any advice... if you're nice to me I'll post some pics later :laugh:
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Offline WillS

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2013, 07:32:12 am »
14 is overkill, but safe.  I use 14 strands of FF for 120# so you should be fine.

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2013, 07:53:23 am »
Ta, just trying to get a feel for it. Can't remember what I used on the 90# I built... spose I could check on t'blog ;D
I've just posted a full draw pic of the Elm bow at full draw on the blog, it's just about made the 100#, looks pretty good.
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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2013, 09:45:30 am »
I often use 18 strands of D97 FF. I know... it's waaaay overbuilt, but I find it much more comfy on my fingers while shooting to use a bigger string.

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2013, 09:47:50 am »
Look forward to checking out your elm bow Del. I always use at least 18 strands ff for 100#, I hate little strings, double serving or not.
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2013, 09:50:22 am »
Good point, the fingers do take a heck of a strain, and I know my knuckles will feel it.
I don't think I'll be shooting it much as it's prob' at the top of my capabilities... just feel a man's gotta do what a man's gotta do ;D
And I gotta have a 32" draw bow in my rack...
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Offline WillS

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2013, 11:00:47 am »
You're all crazy with your rope strings  :P

Just lay a few more strands under the serving until it feels comfortable.  18 strand strings will rob your cast like crazy!

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2013, 11:33:19 am »
It's the weight of the string and it's ability to resist stretch, not the number of strands, that will effect cast. I've tested this. I found ZERO difference in cast going from a 14 strand to an 18 strand FF string, all else being equal.

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2013, 12:10:48 pm »
Well....Pffft.  I reckon Canadian ff is different to English...




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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2013, 01:25:46 pm »
E=MC^2
Physics dictates the number of strings has an effect. It may be small enough not to notice but is definitely a factor.  ;)
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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2013, 01:36:07 pm »
E=MC^2
Physics dictates the number of strings has an effect. It may be small enough not to notice but is definitely a factor.  ;)

Sure enough. But, the amount of mass difference is negligible.

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2013, 02:09:46 pm »
You're all crazy with your rope strings  :P

Just lay a few more strands under the serving until it feels comfortable.  18 strand strings will rob your cast like crazy!

In my (humble) opinion, I don't think 18 strands is by any means a rope. Brownell themselves recommend 18 - 20 strands for a general string (not a warbow string) for fast flight plus. But I don't flight shoot or anything...
"The way of heaven is like the bending of a bow-
 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2013, 02:19:05 pm »
You're all crazy with your rope strings  :P

Just lay a few more strands under the serving until it feels comfortable.  18 strand strings will rob your cast like crazy!

In my (humble) opinion, I don't think 18 strands is by any means a rope. Brownell themselves recommend 18 - 20 strands for a general string (not a warbow string) for fast flight plus. But I don't flight shoot or anything...
We dun want no 'humble' we wanna fight >:D
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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2013, 02:41:13 pm »
I dunno then.  I do know that the EWBS guys use 14 as a "general rule" and that's right up to 150# bows.  As far as I'm concerned, the thinner the string the more performance (logically) but I've never tested the theory.  Either way, I wouldn't go above 12 for 100# unless you're doing it for comfort over safety.

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Re: Strand Count for 100# ?
« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2013, 03:17:56 pm »
Nuffin' to do wiv bows or strings... but I jus' made a Blackberry and Pear pie with whats prob' the last pickin' of blackberries...
Yum yum... can't type... eatin'..... yum
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