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Offline PlanB

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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #315 on: February 19, 2016, 01:08:29 pm »
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #316 on: February 20, 2016, 03:47:39 am »
Here is my attempt on the trade so far.
I decided to make a take down for two reasons. First it is a lot easier to ship over the pond, the second is it looks cool and this bow is thought to be a hunting bow  -  so perhaps another good reason as the transport into the bush is also simple.
My thoughts about a bushbow are: not too long, dull finish with natural colors or camo, low stress design to allow leaving the bow braced the hunting session long – so no reflex or just a bit, a fast design – a static or a r/d, no fancy things – it should be a working horse.


Here we go:

This is my last suitable short stave, if it don't work I need to cut a lfull length  stave.
Splitting into sister billets went without problems, the piece is nearly straight









Shortened the lower limb 2”



the billets with the prepared homemade sleeves. As you can see I have improved the sleeves by cutting an angle at the joint. This allows a longer way inside and gives a lot more of stability. I really don't like if the limbs are waggly when unbraced.



Also made new cauls for the steaming



here already steamed and laying together in the desired shape r/d



The inner ends



The back with guide lines for side taper



Side





Now for the funky part. As said I will try r/d design. So the limbs should reach the sleeves in an angle, not parallel to the back ring. Next challenge is to get the 45° joint matching,. You can see some lines a s guide for sawing and shaping. The red line is the chased back ring, near the handle I have left some additional rings to have some wood to play with. Or in other words the room in the sleeves must be filled to get a good  fit and the back ring (here is the most stress) must have to lay deeper to avoid cutting off in front of the sleeve. The sawline of the two cut off shims is the direction the sleeves will have. Parallel to the black guide line in the middle. Hope you can follow my crude words …





Here you see the desired design, the limbs laying in position. If you look close you can see that the sleeve direction isn'tt parallel to the string. The plan is the let the upper limbcoming in the sleeve in a bit steeper angle than the bottom. This allows to hold the handle canted a bit forward on the upper end, or short: a more recurve grip. Background is the sleeves are always a bit boring, a non shaped geometric thing looking non natural.



working on the 45° cut



the lower limb, fitting the large sleeve





checking the joint



the upper ready, perfect fit



Next steps (no pics) were taper side, taper thickness, tiller, and into the fuming pipe - will try a faded coloring again ...
hope it works - we will see in about 10 days










Simon
Bavaria, Germany

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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #317 on: February 20, 2016, 03:49:09 am »
You got that right! Finished throwing it in the burn pile :)

That sucks, Pearlie. That stick was looking nice ....
Simon
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #318 on: February 20, 2016, 06:59:18 am »
Looks like you are making some great progress on  your bow Simson. 
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #319 on: February 20, 2016, 07:50:01 am »
That is going to be a real sweetie, Simon. I've never glued in deflex, but plan to very soon. Your pictures and descriptions are also great, it helps a lot of folks see things and understand things that words cant describe.
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Offline Danzn Bar

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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #320 on: February 20, 2016, 09:14:53 am »
Great work Simon......I'm watching and learning
Thanks
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #321 on: February 20, 2016, 09:21:08 am »
Excellent design Simon, I bet that is gonna be a killer bow when done. Also, well done on the pics and descriptions of the whole process.
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #322 on: February 20, 2016, 10:03:02 am »
Profile looks killer Simon and your theory and execution on the sleeve layout is great
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #323 on: February 20, 2016, 11:30:53 am »
Stellar work guys! 8)I should receive a stave of vm and osage from wizard goat(ryan) very soon and I will get going on this.On a side note I wedged one of my suspect skinny elm staves(mold damaged? )between a couple of trees and bent it about 75 degrees before it cracked. Ever so slightly so i'm gonna maybe try a bow out of it to see what happens.thoughts are welcome on the elm.thank's bush!
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #324 on: February 20, 2016, 02:45:33 pm »
Cool thing about seeing all these bows being built, I know who is receiving them  :)
As I wait for plan A to season up a bit more, I'm going to get going on plan B and C.

Offline Aaron H

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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #325 on: February 20, 2016, 04:38:10 pm »
Very cool Simon, fun seeing the progress

Offline Pat B

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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #326 on: February 21, 2016, 12:35:36 pm »
I'm back at it this morning(afternoon) guys...straightening out previously bent osage. Lets see if this plan works.  ;D
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #327 on: February 21, 2016, 04:21:47 pm »
That look's like a Bad a$$ bow, Simson.
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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #328 on: February 21, 2016, 08:44:29 pm »
Wel I have an osage selfbow in the works and this
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Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: 1st Annual PA Invitational 2016
« Reply #329 on: February 22, 2016, 01:03:26 am »
It seems like getting an osage bow to blwo into 3-4 pieces is an accomplishment in itself. It had to have been close to perfect to do that. Sorry to hear... it does happen, and it is never easy.

3 piece Pearly!
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