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Offline Lucasade

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Finishing material
« on: February 28, 2016, 03:51:02 pm »
If I want to make a mix of beeswax, resin and fine tallow, what resin do I need? Or can I just use wax and tallow?

Offline Pat B

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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2016, 06:21:48 pm »
I've made leather dressing with bees wax, bear grease and pine pitch.
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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 01:07:19 pm »
Would they have used pine pitch in Tudor England? I guess there were pine trees but assumed it would be something else they would use.

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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 02:45:42 pm »
Pine, spruce, fir and probably others
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 04:45:13 pm »
Pork fat and beeswax!  Waterproof, traditional and easy to mix a batch and apply.

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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 01:55:46 am »
I thiught the books say tallow which is mutton or beef fat though?

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2016, 03:05:37 am »
Varnishes have been made from pine resins since forever. I really like copal varnish. It's easy to make your own varnishes from pine resins.

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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 03:59:22 am »
I thiught the books say tallow which is mutton or beef fat though?

I think you can use whatever you want.  A lot of people swear by predator fat - bear, fox etc.  I like pork fat because it's easy to get.  We don't have bears here ;)

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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 09:35:13 am »
I do make a varnish by dissolving hard, brittle pine pitch in alcohol to seal primitive arrows and sinew wraps on arrows. I guess it actually isn't a true varnish because it doesn't have oil in it but it works well to seal arrows and sinew wraps. I don't think I would use it on bows though.
 I have finished a few bows with hand rubbed bear or pork fat and it worked well.
Animal fat, bees wax and tree pitch blend together well with a little heat but be careful because the pitch in very volatile so don't overheat it. Different mix ratios will yield different consistencies for different applications. 
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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2016, 01:15:41 pm »
Sounds like lots of things to experiment with - thanks all.

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Re: Finishing material
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2016, 11:53:41 am »
I thiught the books say tallow which is mutton or beef fat though?

I think you can use whatever you want.  A lot of people swear by predator fat - bear, fox etc.  I like pork fat because it's easy to get.  We don't have bears here ;)

That's exactly what Meester Poletti sends through with his bows Will  ;)....plus when they eventually go "bang", the wreckage smells lovely when you sling it on the camp-fire  :P

John T  8)
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