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Offline Stick Bender

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Hickory Design
« on: May 05, 2017, 01:25:38 pm »
Hi Fellas this is a design I have been pondering for a while I wanted a longer handle/fade area 11 in. To keep the stave length long but the limb mass light I started ruffing down the limb thickness & was planning on 7 in. strait static tips but I only have 1 1/2 width with this stave so I would end up with 21 in working limb @ 1 1/2 wide 67 1/2 in. TTT   so my choice is this design or a standard parallel limb design ,I plan on heat treating in 2 in. Of reflex before bending far , so you guys that work with hickory do you think it's doable ?
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Re: Hickorie Design
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2017, 01:26:10 pm »
67 1/2 in.
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Offline KS51

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2017, 05:55:46 pm »
You don't indicate the poundage or draw length you are aiming for so it will be a bit tricky for folks to offer advice.

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2017, 06:14:31 pm »
 I'm shooting for 48 lb @29  I decided to go with the static design started working the tappers down today  I'm probably a little light on width at 1 1/2  but will give it a go .
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Offline loon

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2017, 07:33:33 am »
Good luck!
want to know how it goes

Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2017, 09:44:58 am »
21 inches of working limb (per limb?) for a 29 inch draw is asking a lot IMHO.
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Offline Stick Bender

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2017, 11:11:27 am »
The over all length George is 67 1/2 in. It has another 7 in of Eiffel tower type levers so the working limbs will not be bending as far as standard working limbs !
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2017, 04:20:42 pm »
I think you options are open,, if it starts to take accessive set, you can always shorten the handle fades to get more working wood,, (W

Offline Stick Bender

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2017, 04:41:20 pm »
 The fades are pretty much fixed at that length due to the hour glass tapering handle if I would go back into the fades they would end up into the narrower part of the limb the other option would be to shorten the levers , this stave is a well seasoned pig nut stave but the statics would be strait not recurved , I know I have seen similar shorter bows with narrower hickory limbs posted here , granted by better bowyers then me ,  some times it's seems iin new designs there is tuff choices to make using comon sense but there is always risk , I ruffed this bow out a year ago if I were to ruff it out today I would have made different choices  (=)
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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2017, 04:43:38 pm »
I am sure you will get a great bow,,very nice stave, (-P

Offline PatM

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2017, 05:46:02 pm »
The over all length George is 67 1/2 in. It has another 7 in of Eiffel tower type levers so the working limbs will not be bending as far as standard working limbs !

How so?

Offline loon

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2017, 07:19:25 pm »
The over all length George is 67 1/2 in. It has another 7 in of Eiffel tower type levers so the working limbs will not be bending as far as standard working limbs !

How so?
Cut off the levers and the limbs (of the now shorter bow, with the same working limb length) will have to bend more for the same draw length?

Offline loon

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2017, 07:27:33 pm »
Are you gonna trap the back and/or heat treat the belly?

Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2017, 07:43:29 pm »
The over all length George is 67 1/2 in. It has another 7 in of Eiffel tower type levers so the working limbs will not be bending as far as standard working limbs !

How so?
Cut off the levers and the limbs (of the now shorter bow, with the same working limb length) will have to bend more for the same draw length?

loon, that is how I understand lever bows- you can get away with less working limb because they aren't bending as far due to the levers.
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Re: Hickory Design
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2017, 08:41:29 pm »
My take is only if you compare it to a short bow. If you compare it to a bow of the same length look at it this way. The last nine or so inches of a long bow bends a bit. If you turn that nine inches into a stiff lever something else has to bend a little more to make up for it.