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A wide limbed osage (session 5 added)
« on: June 20, 2017, 02:53:45 pm »
I have watched the other thread here with interest:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=60844.0

I think a wide limbed osage is possible, if it is short enough. Two things have to be saved, the mass and the length of the lever. Saving mass can be achieved by narrowing the outers and short leverage of course by short limbs. So let's see ...

I had a nice clean and more or less straight piece of osage 56” long. My idea was do make a bendy handle bow with fully 28" draw length.

It was thick enough for a belly split (Plan B), what you see here is the back split. It is rough cleaned up. The belly split is not as wide of course, I lay it beside.

So here is the back split:

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Belly



Side



Dimensions, relative thin rings, fat heavy wood, usable width 2”.


« Last Edit: June 29, 2017, 10:25:21 am by simson »
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2017, 03:06:28 pm »
yes you can do it,,  (-S

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2017, 12:08:30 am »
I'll be watching.

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2017, 04:03:55 am »
Looks like a nice piece of wood, if anyone can pull off a nice bow from that you can. ;)
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2017, 06:56:29 am »
Looking forward to this thread  (-P
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2017, 01:40:03 pm »
Great job of getting that split like that.
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2017, 02:05:08 pm »
Simon I don't want to hijack your thread but I have some input. Check out this one I made some time back. Wide limbs are easily doable. Curious to see what you come up with.

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,38050.msg504634.html#msg504634

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2017, 02:13:37 pm »
That is sweet Jon.I don't know how I missed that one.
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2017, 10:13:57 am »
Yes! This will be an interesting thread!  (-P (-P (-P

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 2 added)
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2017, 01:03:31 pm »
Simon I don't want to hijack your thread but I have some input. Check out this one I made some time back. Wide limbs are easily doable. Curious to see what you come up with.

http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,38050.msg504634.html#msg504634

Hi Jon, now this is a sweet bow. Like Ed, I missed it somehow.
I'm interested how wide are the limbs.


well, I think the thing is to make an effcient osage bow with wide limbs and no shock. And instead of Jon I will go for a long faded, 2" wide and short recurved design.

Normally I would split that 2" wide thing in two 1" wide and make two bows out of it. But let's see what happens. I have a leftover splinter of another stave, only ⅞" wide. Maybe I find the time to do parallel a narrow ELB stile straight stick - just to compare.

I'm going for a symmetrical bow, marked the middle and the fades. I will rough reduce the width to save work time at ring chasing.

 

Working with the drawknife from both sides is a secure strategy

 



Same procedure at the tips







Now for the ring chasing, the width is in rough dimensions (eyeballing)





This is how the stave looks now:

Back



Center mark, and handle mark at the sides. The thickness is now 5/8” at handle.



I mark sections every 2” with numbers from the fades outwards. Fades are “F”, between fades A – C







Now the final width can be made easy by comparing the width of the sections on upper with the bottom limb.
Next step is the thickness taper. First I go for a parallel taper from fades outwards. The red line marks a distance of about 6 mm. A second line at the handle area and outer tips in a distance of 8 mm keeps this portions stiff enough for the desired tiller.

I keep all edges sharp, so it is a lot easier to go for the thickness taper








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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2017, 02:00:57 pm »
realllyl nice, I love that shape,, (-P

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2017, 03:03:23 pm »
Many, many people will appreciate this build along, Simon.
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2017, 03:36:07 pm »
Yep, nothing like a well-photographed build by a top notch (and thorough!) bowyer.  Thanks!

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2017, 04:51:34 pm »
That looks interesting Simon. The limbs on mine are 1 15/16".

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2017, 02:55:55 pm »
I love the way he uses the draw knife, I could never do that,, (SH)