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Offline Aaron H

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #15 on: June 23, 2017, 10:56:18 pm »
This is great Simon.  Thank you for bringing us along for the ride.   :OK

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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2017, 01:16:59 am »
Interesting....To me it looks like a design I've been very curious about.A willow leaf limb design or a short wide limbed recurve.Am I close to the comparable description Simon?My take on this is that if a person can get the maximum work out of a short area of limb to handle the stress on a short bow.It can be pretty efficient.
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Re: A wide limbed osage
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2017, 04:58:29 am »
Many, many people will appreciate this build along, Simon.

Chris, please don't expect too much. This will be not a full documented buildalong, I just want to make some pics of the process.
As I'm worker and photographer, the pics are not always done in the best moment/stadium. I'm sure you know it's a different thing to interrupt the workflow and remember to the pics and some notice ...

That looks interesting Simon. The limbs on mine are 1 15/16".

Jon, that's pretty near to 2", sometime I will test out your design also!

I love the way he uses the draw knife, I could never do that,, (SH)

Brad, I've tested about ten or more different models of drawknifes. The one I use now is by far the best for bowwmaking (at least for me), all others are laying around in my shop - the most used only one time. So my favorite drawknife is a French product and I like it razorsharp for every job. Chasing a ring or roughing down to near dimensions, all is much more precise and faster as with other drawknifes. You should try!

Interesting....To me it looks like a design I've been very curious about.A willow leaf limb design or a short wide limbed recurve.Am I close to the comparable description Simon?My take on this is that if a person can get the maximum work out of a short area of limb to handle the stress on a short bow.It can be pretty efficient.

Yep Ed, exactly!


Let's go on.........

Here is how the bow looks now with the rough worked down thickness. The bow still wasn't bent so far. The short recurves were steamed in. I haven't made pics because the process how I do them are shown in several of my 'HowTo's'.

The pencil shows an area which must be corrected. In the side view you see the deflex.



In the front view (back of the bow) you can see it must be corrected sideways too.





This is the caul I will use for doing the corrections in one session. And also for inducing some reflex



Here is the mouth of the caul, where the tip of the bow is secured with wedges







Now the bow is going to be heated up, beginning from the tip to the handle. Clamps and wedges are pressing the bow in the desired shape.





A weight on the other end of the bow brings a constant force for inducing the reflex, and I have my hands free for the heat gun and setting wedges.

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 3 added)
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2017, 08:22:43 am »
Thanks Simon this is very cool build !
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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 3 added)
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2017, 07:44:55 pm »
Very cool indeed! When I make a bendy handle bow I narrow the handle area and compensate in thickness like you have done here. I've never done this as dramatically as you have here, but have wanted to. Can't wait to see how it turns out!  (-P
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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 3 added)
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2017, 09:55:03 am »
Very reminiscent of some of the old school flight bows.

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 3 added)
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2017, 10:18:57 am »
After both sides are done, the bow looks like this. The perspective is playing tricks, the reflex isn't that high as it seems.







Here is a detail of the tips. I have narrowed them, and need an overlay.



A thin piece of buff horn of about only 3mm thick is enough, because I use very thin stings.
The piece is about 3” long, and I will make both overlays out of it.



I thin them out on both sides and cut them in halves.






A little flattening the surface of the tips and the tips can be superglued on



After that, the bows back can be final sanded, nocks shaped.

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 4 added)
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2017, 10:55:43 am »
Thank you for doing this Simon. I'm looking at the recurves/reflex. It is long and slow, gradually increasing and then with a little kink at the end. Is there a reason for this shape other than artistic?

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 4 added)
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2017, 11:19:15 am »
Thanks for showing your work as you go, Simon!  It'll be neat to see what it'll look like at the end.  It'll also be interesting to see how much set the limbs take when he starts to tiller it.  As of now, it has a similar shape to a Turkish horse bow (not as dramatic reflex and shorter static tips, of course).
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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 4 added)
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2017, 06:27:17 pm »
very nice,, (SH)

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 4 added)
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2017, 10:24:56 am »
No Pics from the tillering process as that is shown quite often in other threads.
The bow is a bendy handle bow and the handle is quite thin. Because of more comfort I will build it up a bit. I will do with somme leather leftovers and superglue, the leather is flexible and doesn't stiffen up the handle again.



Some shaping with a file and the next layer can be applied.



And after the final shaping





Some years ago a got an .... (what do you think is that?) foot from a friend, I have saved the bone, the sinew and the skin from the under leg and the toes with the claws. XY have three toes on their feet, one big in middle and two secondaries left and right. I will use the big on the back and the two smaller on the belly side.







I soaked them for two hours, glued them on with TB3, trimmed them on the overlapping (which wasn't that easy – the skin has rigid horn plates). A tight rubber textile wrapping holds that thing in place til the glue is hardening out.

Simon
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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 5 added)
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2017, 10:29:33 am »
Ostrich!
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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 5 added)
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2017, 10:43:00 am »
Or maybe an Emu?
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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 5 added)
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2017, 10:46:06 am »
Cassowary, :D  all the easy ones are taken.

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Re: A wide limbed osage (session 5 added)
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2017, 11:53:13 am »
Ostrich only have two toes. Looks more like Emu.
 Cassowary are longer.