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Offline jayman448

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length vs twis rate
« on: August 16, 2017, 11:44:39 pm »
im looking to get into the world of BP and was looking at two budget guns. i was wondering which would yeild the greatest accuracy : one has a 34.5 inch barrel with 1 in 66, and the other is 28 inch with a 1 in 48. whats more important with these things? length or twist :-M

Offline chamookman

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Re: length vs twis rate
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2017, 12:30:35 am »
I'm no expert, but I believe it depends on if You plan on shooting patched balls or some of the more modern type of Bullets. Bob
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: length vs twis rate
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2017, 05:25:41 am »
It depends on several things, caliber for one and what you plan to shoot the other.

Smaller calibers tend to like 1 in 48 or less. I have a .40 with a Green Mountain barrel that is 1 in 48 and will shoot a cloverleaf with patched balls at 50 yards even with my old eyes that can't see the sights. It will not shoot a bullet type projectile worth a hoot.

TC guns .45 and up are 1 in 48 and will shoot patched balls and bullets well, they also have shallow rifling. The TC pennsylvania hunter guns are made for patched balls and are 1 in 66.

For .45 and up 1 in 66 will handle patched balls well but not bullets.

Offline Hawkdancer

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Re: length vs twis rate
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2017, 08:55:15 am »
It also depends on how deep the rifling is groove to groove.  The deeper rifling is probably a flintlock and will do rather poorly with bullets.  Also consider which rifle you are comfortable handling.
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Eric,
Do you know of any Green Mountain .40 cal drop in barrels that might be available?
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: length vs twis rate
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 05:04:32 am »
Barrel manufacturers make all their barrels the same as far as lands a grooves go, same for rifling depth. If you chose to use the barrel on a flintlock or percussion gun the barrel will be the same.

A .40 drop in is pretty rare, I saw one on ebay a while back and the guy wanted somewhere around $350 for it.

I understand Rice Barrels has been talking about making a drop in but don't know if they have or not at this point.

Offline archeryrob

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Re: length vs twis rate
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2017, 12:05:50 pm »
Barrel length is not going to matter unless you are looking for a longer burning charge. Like using 2F over 3f and the amount of powder

1:66 is a round ball only twist and does it well. Sabots can get unstable as they don't spin enough
1:48 is a modified and can shoot slugs, sabots and round balls fairly well
1:36 or there about is what inlines use as the faster spin is better for sabots and slugs
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: length vs twis rate
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 05:05:41 am »
I did a search and found a year old listing for a .40 drop in.

Green Mountain .40 drop in barrel, 1-48 twist, percussion, blued, 1" across flats, modern 'primitive' sights, 29" long, fits TC Hawken and Renegade with 1" barrel channel. Purchased it as unfired, never have used it, looks new. $250 shipped in the US.